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| History is the judge | Sep 30, 2007 |
Angus Woo wrote:
Exactly! I think to err in only human， so if we pretend that we are always right， it would only make the person involved become the laughing stalk in front of others.
Being always right is a fantasy.
In the past, the Catholic church and nearly all dictatorial powers used to claim that they had never and never will make any mistake, whatever they say or do will just always be right. Unfortunately history told us another story. Nonetheless I suppose history will simply repeat itself every now and then, somebody would obstinately refuse to admit that they are wrong (occasionally some people would take the other approach), and then in that case, history will have to give a fairer judgment sooner or later. So I guess there is no need to get too upset after all.
Angus,
I totally agree with you! History proves that even some notable political figures that were deified for some purposes were not always right. Some of them made serious big mistakes which resulted in terrible catastrophes!
BTW, I agree with what Wenjer said, I also admire your writing style very much!
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| Congratulations! | Sep 30, 2007 |
Bin,
Congratulations to you and your daughter! It seems as if it were still yesterday when you told me that your duaghter had been admitted byWharton school of U Penn!
Libin PhD wrote:
我女儿去年秋季学期在西班牙一所商学院上了一个学期的课，现在已经是四年级上学期了，明年五月毕业，她们已经开始面试找工作了，高盛、麦肯锡这些大公司常年派招工小组住在她们学校。下面是她一个多星期前给我发的邮件：
I have 6 interviews so far  and this is only day 2 of finding out about interviews!!! And I finally get a chance at Goldman Sachs.
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| 是啊，孩子们的好消息我们家长都高兴啊 | Sep 30, 2007 |
是啊，我们这些家长听到孩子们的好消息都高兴。不过像高盛和麦肯锡这样的公司要能进去需要很好的运气。她前两天告诉我，麦肯锡也给了她面试的机会。她们Wharton差不多500名学生每个人都会给麦肯锡投简历的，加上UPenn其他院系的学生至少会有1000人给麦肯锡投简历，但是能有机会进入第一轮面试的最多50－75人，也就是说，她们Wharton和Upenn的同学也是差不多20个人才有一个�... See more 是啊，我们这些家长听到孩子们的好消息都高兴。不过像高盛和麦肯锡这样的公司要能进去需要很好的运气。她前两天告诉我，麦肯锡也给了她面试的机会。她们Wharton差不多500名学生每个人都会给麦肯锡投简历的，加上UPenn其他院系的学生至少会有1000人给麦肯锡投简历，但是能有机会进入第一轮面试的最多50－75人，也就是说，她们Wharton和Upenn的同学也是差不多20个人才有一个人得到麦肯锡的面试机会。对这些大公司不报多大希望，她原来说希望到汇丰银行的香港或上海分行工作两年，然后在回到法学院或商学院读研究生，不过现在这些面试是很难得的经历，所以我一再要她认真准备，还特地给她换了个Blackberry手机，这样可以随时接收、回复电子邮件，不用等到晚上回到宿舍才能用电脑回复，那样可能错过一些机会。
我记得在什么地方读到过，这次的次贷垃圾基金对高盛影响微乎其微，他们买的不多。
chance wrote:
不难想见你的喜悦，要是我不问，你还不和我们分享好消息啊？你知道我们这些当父母的就愿意听到这样的好消息，好像也给我们带来了更多希望 
忍不住还要问个敏感问题，高盛没受这次危机影响？
Libin PhD wrote:
Chance，非常感谢你还记着我以前跟你说过的她们要来欧洲的事，她们去年夏天来过了，我也让她们来找你，只是她们后来是跟着旅行团，行程匆匆，到哪里都停不了一天以上，所以就没有来找你了。谢谢你这么久还记在心里，也没有早点告诉你，真是不好意思，请原谅。
我女儿去年秋季学期在西班牙一所商学院上了一个学期的课，现在已经是四年级上学期了，明年五月毕业，她们已经开始面试找工作了，高盛、麦肯锡这些大公司常年派招工小组住在她们学校。下面是她一个多星期前给我发的邮件：
I have 6 interviews so far and this is only day 2 of finding out about interviews!!! And I finally get a chance at Goldman Sachs.
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还有老孙、老傅的孩子也都是好样的，我只希望我女儿别太差就行 Libin PhD wrote:
是啊，我们这些家长听到孩子们的好消息都高兴。不过像高盛和麦肯锡这样的公司要能进去需要很好的运气。她前两天告诉我，麦肯锡也给了她面试的机会。她们Wharton差不多500名学生每个人都会给麦肯锡投简历的，加上UPenn其他院系的学生至少会有1000人给麦肯锡投简历，但是能有机会进入第一轮面试的最多50－75人，也就是说，她们Wharton和Upenn的同学也是差不多20个人才有一个人得到麦肯锡的面试机会。对这些大公司不报多大希望，她原来说希望到汇丰银行的香港或上海分行工作两年，然后在回到法学院或商学院读研究生，不过现在这些面试是很难得的经历，所以我一再要她认真准备，还特地给她换了个Blackberry手机，这样可以随时接收、回复电子邮件，不用等到晚上回到宿舍才能用电脑回复，那样可能错过一些机会。
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How time flies. She is going to graduate in less than a year! I cannot wait to go to Philadelphia to attend her commencement next May.
Thanks for caring.
Yueyin Sun wrote:
Bin,
Congratulations to you and your daughter! It seems as if it were still yesterday when you told me that your duaghter had been admitted by Wharton school of U Penn!
Libin PhD wrote:
我女儿去年秋季学期在西班牙一所商学院上了一个学期的课，现在已经是四年级上学期了，明年五月毕业，她们已经开始面试找工作了，高盛、麦肯锡这些大公司常年派招工小组住在她们学校。下面是她一个多星期前给我发的邮件：
I have 6 interviews so far and this is only day 2 of finding out about interviews!!! And I finally get a chance at Goldman Sachs.
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有其母必有其女！当妈的对女儿的影响往往是最大的！
chance wrote:
还有老孙、老傅的孩子也都是好样的，我只希望我女儿别太差就行
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我发现你越来越会说话
他爸前几天还问我到底是不是他的？我毫不犹豫地告诉他：肯定不是我的。后来仔细一想，这是怎么个说法，幸好我女儿不在
Yueyin Sun wrote:
有其母必有其女！当妈的对女儿的影响往往是最大的！
chance wrote:
还有老孙、老傅的孩子也都是好样的，我只希望我女儿别太差就行
[Edited at 2007-09-30 17:48]
[Edited at 2007-09-30 17:49]
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强烈同意！
不过话说回来，主要还是要看孩子们做的事情她们喜欢不喜欢，这才是最重要的，比如说，我就不希望我女儿去银行的投资部门，那些investment Banker挣的钱比较多，但是多数人差不多都是一个星期工作80－100个小时，几乎吃住都在办公室。没有Life，挣钱再多有什么用？人生的目的毕竟不是仅仅为了挣钱。尤其是女孩子，过那样的日子还不如不要读大学去麦�... See more 强烈同意！
不过话说回来，主要还是要看孩子们做的事情她们喜欢不喜欢，这才是最重要的，比如说，我就不希望我女儿去银行的投资部门，那些investment Banker挣的钱比较多，但是多数人差不多都是一个星期工作80－100个小时，几乎吃住都在办公室。没有Life，挣钱再多有什么用？人生的目的毕竟不是仅仅为了挣钱。尤其是女孩子，过那样的日子还不如不要读大学去麦当劳打工呢。
Yueyin Sun wrote:
有其母必有其女！当妈的对女儿的影响往往是最大的！
chance wrote:
还有老孙、老傅的孩子也都是好样的，我只希望我女儿别太差就行
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| 我女儿倒是喜欢她现在的选项 | Sep 30, 2007 |
我女儿倒是喜欢她现在的选项, 但是有些主课太一般，还老说我现在不玩什么时候玩？刚才我给她小姨通话：我们要50年才明白的道理她现在就明白了
不过你女儿刚从学校出来，年轻有才，也许需要自我实现，然后过几年就可以放松一些了。
Libin PhD wrote:
不过话说回来，主要还是要看孩子做的事情她喜欢不喜欢，这才是最重要的，比如说，我就不希望我女儿去银行的投资部门，那些investment Banker挣的钱比较多，但是多数人差不多都是一个星期工作80－100个小时，几乎吃住都在办公室。没有Life，挣钱再多有什么用？人生的目的毕竟不是仅仅为了挣钱。尤其是女孩子，过那样的日子还不如不要读大学去麦当劳打工呢。
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“我们要50年才明白的道理她现在就明白了”
看了忍不住笑起来，还是这些小鬼精明啊
chance wrote:
我女儿倒是喜欢她现在的选项, 但是有些主课太一般，还老说我现在不玩什么时候玩？刚才我给她小姨通话：我们要50年才明白的道理她现在就明白了
不过你女儿刚从学校出来，年轻有才，也许需要自我实现，然后过几年就可以放松一些了。
Libin PhD wrote:
不过话说回来，主要还是要看孩子做的事情她喜欢不喜欢，这才是最重要的，比如说，我就不希望我女儿去银行的投资部门，那些investment Banker挣的钱比较多，但是多数人差不多都是一个星期工作80－100个小时，几乎吃住都在办公室。没有Life，挣钱再多有什么用？人生的目的毕竟不是仅仅为了挣钱。尤其是女孩子，过那样的日子还不如不要读大学去麦当劳打工呢。
[Edited at 2007-09-30 18:07]
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chance：
谢谢夸奖！但实际上，我是最不会说话的。一就是一，二就是二，不知道换个别的好说法，所以也容易得罪人。
按照一般规律，女儿跟爸爸比较亲，在外面也往往会吹嘘他爸如何如何棒，但到关键时刻还是会站在她妈那边。要不然为什么说母亲最伟大呢？我曾经因没有女儿而感到遗憾，后来想开了。:D
chance wrote:
我发现你越来越会说话
他爸前几天还问我到底是不是他的？我毫不犹豫地告诉他：肯定不是我的。后来仔细一想，这是怎么个说法，幸好我女儿不在
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| The truth speaks for itself | Oct 1, 2007 |
Yueyin Sun wrote:
Angus Woo wrote:
Exactly! I think to err in only human， so if we pretend that we are always right， it would only make the person involved become the laughing stalk in front of others.
Being always right is a fantasy.
In the past, the Catholic church and nearly all dictatorial powers used to claim that they had never and never will make any mistake, whatever they say or do will just always be right. Unfortunately history told us another story. Nonetheless I suppose history will simply repeat itself every now and then, somebody would obstinately refuse to admit that they are wrong (occasionally some people would take the other approach), and then in that case, history will have to give a fairer judgment sooner or later. So I guess there is no need to get too upset after all.
Angus,
I totally agree with you! History proves that even some notable political figures that were deified for some purposes were not always right. Some of them made serious big mistakes which resulted in terrible catastrophes!
BTW, I agree with what Wenjer said, I also admire your writing style very much!
Thank you Lao Sun and Wenjer. It's very kind of you.
BTW, Li Bin and Chance大姐, there is a saying "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world. A woman behind every successful man, well, that could be his mother.
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| That is right. | Oct 1, 2007 |
Yes. Angus. We all should be grateful to our mothers who rock our cradles and we even don't remember it.
Angus Woo wrote:
Yueyin Sun wrote:
Angus Woo wrote:
Exactly! I think to err in only human， so if we pretend that we are always right， it would only make the person involved become the laughing stalk in front of others.
Being always right is a fantasy.
In the past, the Catholic church and nearly all dictatorial powers used to claim that they had never and never will make any mistake, whatever they say or do will just always be right. Unfortunately history told us another story. Nonetheless I suppose history will simply repeat itself every now and then, somebody would obstinately refuse to admit that they are wrong (occasionally some people would take the other approach), and then in that case, history will have to give a fairer judgment sooner or later. So I guess there is no need to get too upset after all.
Angus,
I totally agree with you! History proves that even some notable political figures that were deified for some purposes were not always right. Some of them made serious big mistakes which resulted in terrible catastrophes!
BTW, I agree with what Wenjer said, I also admire your writing style very much!
Thank you Lao Sun and Wenjer. It's very kind of you.
BTW, Li Bin and Chance大姐, there is a saying "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world. A woman behind every successful man, well, that could be his mother.
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希望你有时间常来转转
[Edited at 2007-10-01 10:50]
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| That just shows how great mums are. | Oct 5, 2007 |
Libin PhD wrote:
Yes. Angus. We all should be grateful to our mothers who rock our cradles and we even don't remember it.
I guess we all should.
Also Chance 大姐, thank you, I will when I have time.
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