Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
milk ice/water ice
French translation:
glace au lait/glace à l'eau
English term
milk ice/water ice
glace au lait/glace à l'eau ? (sachant qu'il y a déjà "ice cream" dans la liste)
| 4 +1 | glace au lait/glace à l'eau |
Cyril Tollari
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| 4 +1 | glace de lait/glace d'eau |
Nicolas Gambardella
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Nov 21, 2019 15:48: Cyril Tollari Created KOG entry
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Proposed translations
France
Reliable & Experienced Engineer, EN>FR
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English
glace au lait/glace à l'eau
https://books.google.fr/books?id=i7s7BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA300&lpg=P...
Term used in the USA where there is no classification for sorbets but there is for water ice
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFR...
La définition, de water ice pour les Etats-Unis montre que c'est une glace sans lait.
glace à l'eau
extrait sec total égal au moins à 12 %
sorbet
glace à l'eau avec au moins 25 % de fruits
milk ice
more than 6% milk solids non-fat (MSNF)
https://books.google.fr/books?id=xANlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT311&lpg=P...
glace au lait
au moins 6 % d'extrait sec dégraissé de lait
Code des pratiques loyales des glaces alimentaires (glace au lait, glace à l'eau)
https://docplayer.fr/13714858-Code-des-pratiques-loyales-des...
http://circulaires.legifrance.gouv.fr/pdf/2009/04/cir_2594.p...
Eskimo Monkey de Nestle s'appelle Pirulo en France (happy est une glace à l'eau)
https://www.monoprix.fr/courses/glace-a-leau-happy-pirulo-35...
United Kingdom
Going the extra mile for premium results
Native in: French (Variants: Standard-France, Luxembourgish, Canadian, Swiss, Belgian)
Works in: English to French, French to English
glace de lait/glace d'eau
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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-11-15 14:30:46 GMT)
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Exactement ! C'est ce que je dis. Il y a des différences !
La liste est: Crème glacée, glace de lait, glace d'eau, sorbet (*), gel.
(*) pour sorbet/sherbet, je n'ai pas la réponse. Au Royaume Uni, ces termes sont synonymes.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-11-15 14:46:46 GMT)
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Après réflexion, je pense que "lait congelé" et "eau congelée" seraient probablement plus élégants.
| Je ne crois pas. Ça fait plusieurs brevets que je traduis pour ce client et il y a à chaque fois une différence quand les termes sources sont différents. |
| agree |
B D Finch
: Surely any decent ice cream is "creme glacé", not "glace au lait"?
4 hrs
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| neutral |
Tony M
: @ BDF: 'ice-cream' = 'crème glacée' specifically involves freezing a kind of cream or custard; but you can also have a water-ice or a milk-ice (though the latter is less common in the UK, except cf some kinds of lolly)
5 days
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Discussion
In my own view, if someone chooses not to submit an actual answer, I have no compunction about doing so, though I usually acknowledge their prior contribution (assuming I have seen it!) and invite them to post an answer instead and I will delete mine (unless it contains other useful information (e.g. research or personal knowledge) that it would be a shame to lose).
It sometimes happens that I open a question in a tab and start answering it, then something distracts me, and I only finish and submit my answer some time later; it can happen that a fresh discussion post has come in in the meantime, which I therefore might not have spotted.
I think it is particularly important to post an answer where another sub-optimal answer has been submitted, to avoid the possibility of the robot accepting the only submitted answer and thus "polluting" the archives with what may not be the best solution.
sauf qu'on m'a expliqué le contraire. Drmanu49: "poster dans une discussion (encore faut-il le voir) ne constitue pas une réponse". Lionel-N: "Les réponses se mettent ici Cyril, pas en discussion".
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-french/chemistry-chem-...
Modération ? A vrai dire, aider du point de vue des traductions en fournissant une explication utile m'intéresse plus que de gagner un point à ce stade, mais c'est bien aussi de traiter tout le monde de la même façon. Et si Florence veut absolument ce point, elle peut l'avoir. Personnellement, je ne vais pas me battre pour ça.