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From the difficult roots

French translation: des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles

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English term or phrase:From the difficult roots
French translation:des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles
Entered by: Sylvie LE BRAS

14:45 Apr 10, 2019
English to French translations [Non-PRO]
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
English term or phrase: From the difficult roots
***From the difficult roots***, the teachings are still useful.
My father said, "When we leave, we will leave with empty pockets.
You will leave only two things behind:
How you treated Mother Nature and how you treated people."

Dit par une personne qui a souffert de la misère étant enfant et qui connaît maintenant le succès à l'âge adulte.

Merci
Sylvie LE BRAS
France
Local time: 01:20
des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles
Explanation:
Je serais tentée de remanier la phrase ainsi:
Les enseignements des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles restent utiles
Selected response from:

katsy
Local time: 01:20
Grading comment
Merci très bonne suggestion !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3d'un milieu défavorisé
Florian PLATEL
3des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles
katsy
3 -1Depuis les [ses] origines [si] difficiles
JohnMcDove


  

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
from the difficult roots
d'un milieu défavorisé


Explanation:
Suggestion...

"Lorsque l'on vient d'un milieu défavorisé..."

Florian PLATEL
France
Local time: 01:20
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER
14 hrs
disagree  Daryo: How are you going to make the whole sentence with this? That's what's ALWAYS implicitely asked I.e. the proposed translation must be usable in the specific ST not in some undefined vacuum.
1 day 37 mins
  -> That's not what she asked, only the beginning of the sentence was blocking her. I just tried to help thru my suggestion. And honestly, I don't agree with the one you agreed, the structure of the suggested sentence sounds heavy-handed to me
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
from the difficult roots
Depuis les [ses] origines [si] difficiles


Explanation:
Another possibility...

(Excuse my French... ;-)

... une progression depuis les origines difficiles et obscures jusqu'à l'homme fixé et ...
https://books.google.com/books?id=aa0uR92rmiEC&pg=PA482&lpg=...




JohnMcDove
United States
Local time: 16:20
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: On its own or in some other sentence - maybe. But how you are going to make this fit with the rest of this sentence?
1 day 23 mins
  -> Well, you could make work or reword it at will -- Les enseignements sont encore utiles, malgré le fait que ses origines étaient si difficiles
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
from the difficult roots
des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles


Explanation:
Je serais tentée de remanier la phrase ainsi:
Les enseignements des/de ces débuts dans la vie difficiles restent utiles


katsy
Local time: 01:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
Merci très bonne suggestion !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daryo: I was about to propose something similar. Yes, you have to look at the whole sentence, otherwise you end up with a useless translation - won't fit with the rest.
23 hrs
  -> Thanks Daryo :-)
disagree  Florian PLATEL: The style sounds heavy-handed to me... And, Daryo, we're not supposed to do other people's job, we're here to help, not necessarily translate the whole stuff. Where's your suggestion by the way ? It's so easy to criticize everyone...
4 days
  -> Thank you for your comment Florian :-)
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