she/her/hers - he/him/his - they/them/theirs

19:45 Nov 30, 2020
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English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Other / Non-Binary Language
English term or phrase: she/her/hers - he/him/his - they/them/theirs
Hello! I need some help on how to translate this non-binary language into Spanish.

she/her/hers - he/him/his - they/them/theirs

I haven't found information on the internet, that's why I'd like some help with this subject.
Kimberly Martinez
United States
Local time: 06:17


Summary of answers provided
4 +1Ella/Él/Elle
Ariana Piantanida
4Ella/El/Ellos/Ellas - su/sus/suyo/suya
Luca Parisi
3ella/ella/de ella - él/él/de él - ellos or ellas/ellos o ellas/de ellos o de ellas
Mónica Algazi


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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Ella/Él/Elle


Explanation:
Generalmente, se está utilizando elle como equivalente para they. La e reemplaza lo que la RAE denomina masculino genérico. Por ejemplo: empleados por empleades, hermosos por hermoses, nosotros, nosotres.
Aquí hay más información sobre sus usos y alternativas: https://www.fundeu.es/lenguaje-inclusivo/
https://www.un.org/es/gender-inclusive-language/guidelines.s...

Ariana Piantanida
Argentina
Local time: 10:17
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Luca Parisi: https://www.rae.es/sites/default/files/Informe_lenguaje_incl...
18 mins
  -> No nos vamos a meter en el tema de que la RAE no lo acepta, eso lo sabemos. Ahora bien, when it comes to usage, particularly among LGBTQ+ community members, the pronoun is available, valid, and it is commonly used.

disagree  Jean Shearer: It might be available but is neither valid nor commonly used. https://www.ngenespanol.com/el-mundo/la-rae-rechaza-nuevamen...
47 mins
  -> I pretty much doubt that you are part of the LGBTQ+ community, I do belong though and I read it everywhere, hear it and write it as well. We are talking about functional/creative equivalents here, real speaker choices, not what RAE "includes/accepts".

agree  patinba: Elle como pronombre no-binario (el motivo de la consulta) es aceptable.
1 hr

agree  Toni Castano: No entiendo, o mejor dicho, no entendía mucho de este tema. Pero lo que sí entiendo es que Kimberly está buscando un recurso lingüístico especial que se aleja de lo normativo y lo convencional. Creo que es este caso da igual lo que "dictamine" la RAE.
2 hrs

agree  Alba Barrio
16 hrs
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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
ella/ella/de ella - él/él/de él - ellos or ellas/ellos o ellas/de ellos o de ellas


Explanation:
Además, "suyo", "suya", "suyos", "suyas" funcionaría para los posesivos "hers", "his" y "theirs".

Mónica Algazi
Uruguay
Local time: 10:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 566

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jean Shearer: Absolutely!!
9 mins
  -> Thanks, Jean! : )

neutral  Luca Parisi: me parece que su/sus/suyo o suyas son mas exactos que "de èl o de ella" etc..
14 mins
  -> Lo planteé así para evitar la ambigüedad, aunque más abajo lo sugerí como alternativa válida. Saludos, Luca.

disagree  Ariana Piantanida: No responde a la consulta. Kimberly busca el recurso lingüístico de la jerga, un pronombre no binario. La alternativa prescriptiva la conocemos.
2 hrs
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Ella/El/Ellos/Ellas - su/sus/suyo/suya


Explanation:
Que tal?
Desafortunadamente (para los anglófonos!) esta es una de las "sombras" que no se pueden traducir literalmente! cuantas discusiones con mis amigos para hacer entender que EL sol y la LUNA tiene mas poesía que "the sun or the moon!" Even if I can agree or not about "inclusive lenguages" RAE says something else! (I suggest You to chek the links below!)

suyo
his, yours, own, theirs, hers, their
suya
his, yours, hers, theirs, their, its
suyos
his, yours, theirs, hers, their, its
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Example sentence(s):
  • son hijas suyas = they are his/her daughters

    https://www.rae.es/sites/default/files/Informe_lenguaje_inclusivo.pdf
    https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Gender_neutral_language_in_Spanish
Luca Parisi
Argentina
Local time: 10:17
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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