inversion or not after \"nor\"

English translation: with inversion

16:20 Sep 12, 2018
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Linguistics / grammar
English term or phrase: inversion or not after \"nor\"
Dear colleagues,

I wonder which of the following sentences is correct

I am not a robot and ***nor do you*** expect an automated reply.
I am not a robot and ***nor you do*** expect an automated reply.

Thanks a lot for you help.

Agnès
Agnès Flandin
France
Local time: 12:50
Selected answer:with inversion
Explanation:
but neither sentence looks correct?

I am not a robot and ***nor do you*** expect an automated reply.

you=I?
I > you?
Is the verb right? should it be "should" > nor should you/I?
Any more context?

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Note added at 1 day 16 hrs (2018-09-14 08:55:32 GMT) Post-grading
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glad to have helped

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Yes, I think it's probably a captcha. That's why I queried the pronouns as "I" and "you" in the same phrase look weird. It looks like a bad translation.
Nor is followed by inversion but it could also be dropped completely . The phrase could be written more simply as e.g.
I am not a robot, and this is not an automated reply
I am not a robot and no automated reply should be expected (if you want to keep "expected")
but "nor you do" is completely wrong.
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 11:50
Grading comment
Thank you Yvonne, and thanks to you all for your contribution
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +5with inversion
Yvonne Gallagher
4First is awkward - second is wrong
B D Finch
4 -1Yes to inversion
Tina Vonhof (X)
4 -1none
José J. Martínez


Discussion entries: 6





  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Yes to inversion


Explanation:
I would say "I'm not a robot and neither are you."

I think 'neither' sound better and the two verbs should match.

Tina Vonhof (X)
Canada
Local time: 05:50
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: Except that's not actually what the sentence is saying: "I am not a robot" + "you do not expect..."
4 hrs
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58 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
none


Explanation:
I am not a robot, do not expect an automated reply.

José J. Martínez
United States
Local time: 04:50
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: That completely changes what is obviously the intended meaning: "I am not a robot" + "you do not expect..."
4 hrs
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
First is awkward - second is wrong


Explanation:
The second one is absolutely wrong, but the first is a very awkward construction. "Nor" is used to make linked negative statements; so, it doesn't need to be preceded by "and".

Suggestions:

I am not a robot and you do not expect an automated reply.

OR

I am not a robot, nor do you expect an automated reply.

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"You do expect" is emphatically positive, so it cannot be prefaced by the negative "nor".

B D Finch
France
Local time: 12:50
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 40
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
inversion or not after \\\"nor\\\"
with inversion


Explanation:
but neither sentence looks correct?

I am not a robot and ***nor do you*** expect an automated reply.

you=I?
I > you?
Is the verb right? should it be "should" > nor should you/I?
Any more context?

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Note added at 1 day 16 hrs (2018-09-14 08:55:32 GMT) Post-grading
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glad to have helped

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Note added at 1 day 16 hrs (2018-09-14 08:56:49 GMT) Post-grading
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Yes, I think it's probably a captcha. That's why I queried the pronouns as "I" and "you" in the same phrase look weird. It looks like a bad translation.
Nor is followed by inversion but it could also be dropped completely . The phrase could be written more simply as e.g.
I am not a robot, and this is not an automated reply
I am not a robot and no automated reply should be expected (if you want to keep "expected")
but "nor you do" is completely wrong.


Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 11:50
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 55
Grading comment
Thank you Yvonne, and thanks to you all for your contribution

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: It could be "do" or "should", but I agree that we don't have enough context
11 mins
  -> Thanks:-) really need more context to see what fits best though

agree  Shekhar Banerjee: It flows well after all!
16 mins
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Jack Doughty
4 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Tony M
4 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  atieh allahyari
12 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)
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