are common with

English translation: have (n variables) in common with

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English term or phrase:are common with
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Entered by: MoiraB

15:26 Dec 7, 2011
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Mathematics & Statistics
English term or phrase: are common with
I'm language-editing an academic paper (written in English by French-speakers) about academic success among first-year university students in France and Belgium. A questionnaire-based survey has been carried out and a total of 145 variables have been extracted from the questionnaire, such as age, parents’ education, and perceptions of academic life. They're now discussing the results.

France
Of the 145 variables, 34 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in four variables.

Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 14 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about one in ten variables. Seven of them **are common with** the 34 variables of France.

France + Belgium
Of the 145 variables, 43 were found to be linked to the success of the students at the end of the year, i.e. about three in ten variables. 25 of these variables **are common with** the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium

Would it make sense in statistical lingo to rephrase this as "overlap with"?
MoiraB
France
Local time: 18:28
are the same as
Explanation:
I'd probably state it as "have n variables in common with".

I wouldn't use "overlap" myself.
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DLyons
Ireland
Local time: 17:28
Grading comment
I get it at last ;-) With a little reworking of the sentence, this will do nicely. Thanks, everyone.
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4 +1are the same as
DLyons
4belong to (the set)
M.A.B.
4are common to
Cilian O'Tuama


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are the same as


Explanation:
I'd probably state it as "have n variables in common with".

I wouldn't use "overlap" myself.

DLyons
Ireland
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Grading comment
I get it at last ;-) With a little reworking of the sentence, this will do nicely. Thanks, everyone.

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neutral  Sabine Akabayov, PhD: how can 25 variables be the same as 34 variables? "overlapping sets" is a common mathematical term
1 hr
  -> The 25 are the same as those in a subset of the 48 - that's why I'd say "in common with". To me, it doesn't seem clear what "overlap" might mean in this context.

agree  Cilian O'Tuama: "in common with" could work. I don't like "overlap" here either. Sets overlap (=intersection, Venn diagrams), variables don't.
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thanks Cilian.
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belong to (the set)


Explanation:
or - are included etc.

This is how I'd understand it.

e.g. Seven of them belong to the set of the 34 variables of France.

25 of these variables are included in the set composed of the 34 variables of France and the 14 variables of Belgium

although I'm not sure if the English is perfect here - let a native decide

M.A.B.
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are common to


Explanation:
Belgium:
Set A contains 14 elements, Set B contains 34 elements, and 7 elements are common to both sets.

France + Belgium:
Set A contains 43 elements, Set B contains 48 elements, and 25 elements are common to both sets.

Another approach.

You could say the sets overlap, but not the elements.
Or as DLyons says, the sets "have n variables in common".



Cilian O'Tuama
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