second XXe siècle

14:22 Mar 21, 2019
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French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History
French term or phrase: second XXe siècle
I'm translating a sociological study of business plans. The title of the article is 'Business plans (États-Unis, second XXe siècle)'. The following explanation of the time span of the article implies that, in this article, 'second XXe siècle' = approx. 1945-1975.

This convention for discussing periods of time is used again later: 'dans le premier XIXe siècle'.

My question is: I don't think English uses the same convention, does it, to refer to a section of a time period (eg, 'le premier XIXe siècle' might refer to 1805-1840)? I'm thinking of translating these terms in the following way - any suggestions?:

second XXe siècle = from the Second Half of the 20th Century
premier XIXe siècle = early 19th century
Delaina
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:49


Summary of answers provided
4 -1from the end of WWII to the end of the first half of the second half of the 20th/twentieth century
Francois Boye
320th century, second period
B D Finch
4 -2second half of the 20th century
Ben Gaia
3 -4second mid-century
Isabel Moreira


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -4
second mid-century


Explanation:
English people use this expression. For instance a second mid-century dresser.

Isabel Moreira
Portugal
Local time: 23:49
Native speaker of: Portuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: You haven't given a reference, and I can't find your dresser, but I think you must be misunderstanding something you've found.
10 mins

disagree  Lara Barnett: You don't need both adjectives here, it looks like two half answers.
9 hrs

disagree  Daryo: http://www.hvsh.net/dresser/image/2819/mid-century-dresser-p... if this is your ref. you should've noticed the weird EN used - sounds like Machine Translated!!!
20 hrs

disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: with Phil
1 day 7 hrs
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1 day 23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
from the end of WWII to the end of the first half of the second half of the 20th/twentieth century


Explanation:
my original take

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 19:49
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 3

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: except in some French versions it's from 1939//=start of war https://www.editions-ellipses.fr/second-sicle-1939-2000-thme...
1 day 7 hrs
  -> What do you mean?//I said the end of WWII
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2 days 17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
second half of the 20th century


Explanation:
The missing word is "moitié".

Ben Gaia
New Zealand
Local time: 12:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: no one is suggesting there is a missing word. See Dbox
13 hrs
  -> I am.

disagree  B D Finch: 25 missing years?
1 day 5 hrs
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3 days 22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
20th century, second period


Explanation:
If your text has defined specific periods, then you could refer to them this way once these names have been defined (20th century, first period, 20th century, second period). However, it doesn't seem to be a very good idea and I'd just use "approx. 1945-1975" or "c. 1945-1975".

It's rather longer than what would normally be thought of as the "post-war period" and not long enough for the second half of the 20th century.



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Note added at 3 days 22 hrs (2019-03-25 12:51:33 GMT)
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It could also be referred to as the long third quarter of the 20th century, but only after a previous explanation and on the principle of not using five words when fifty will do.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 00:49
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: Yes, to "approx. 1945-1975"/"c. 1945-1975""using exact time frame" as I said in Dbox "...maybe just saying the 20th century period from....to...). Anything else is not accurate."
2 days 2 hrs
  -> Yes, my header suggestion was just for if the Asker was determined not to use the simple solution. One could even call it the long third quarter of the 20th century, but why.
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