et sa grand-mère

English translation: and his (pet) hamster/goldfish | and his pocket pet

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French term or phrase:et sa grand-mère
English translation:and his (pet) hamster/goldfish | and his pocket pet
Entered by: Paul White

12:18 Aug 21, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
Slang / Literal or figurative?
French term or phrase: et sa grand-mère
Sans lui (et sa grand-mère), le mag serait teeeellement plus sérieux.

I don't know how much input the grandmother has in compiling this magazine, so is it like "uncle Tom Cobley and all" (and is that a recognisable phrase in the US?)

EN US, please.
Paul White
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:19
and his (pet) hamster/goldfish | and his pocket pet
Explanation:
I think the FR may be sort of a reverse take on the "everybody and their dog" turn of phrase, the idea being that here grandmother is an abstraction of his inability or unsuitability for the job. Think "You and your granny are really getting on my nerves" or "You and your granny can go jump", that kind of thing.

If that's the case, then hamster or goldfish may be a workable stand-in for stupidity or incompetence, as they aren't generally thought of as the sharpest pets on the block (I don't remember Hamster or Goldfish ever being in The Wind in the Willows or The Animals of Farthing Wood!).

At least my answer is nicer to grannies, but less so to fur & fin...!

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Note added at 3 days 22 hrs (2020-08-25 10:24:52 GMT)
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Example sentences:
"Without him and his hamster the magazine would have more bite."
"Without him and his goldfish the magazine would swim not sink."
"Without him and his pocket pet it would be a weightier magazine."
Selected response from:

Wolf Draeger
South Africa
Local time: 14:19
Grading comment
The person being described in from Drome/Ardeche, so maybe this is a local expression.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
2 +1and his (pet) hamster/goldfish | and his pocket pet
Wolf Draeger
Summary of reference entries provided
Everybody and his cousin
Wolf Draeger

Discussion entries: 12





  

Answers


3 days 9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
and his (pet) hamster/goldfish | and his pocket pet


Explanation:
I think the FR may be sort of a reverse take on the "everybody and their dog" turn of phrase, the idea being that here grandmother is an abstraction of his inability or unsuitability for the job. Think "You and your granny are really getting on my nerves" or "You and your granny can go jump", that kind of thing.

If that's the case, then hamster or goldfish may be a workable stand-in for stupidity or incompetence, as they aren't generally thought of as the sharpest pets on the block (I don't remember Hamster or Goldfish ever being in The Wind in the Willows or The Animals of Farthing Wood!).

At least my answer is nicer to grannies, but less so to fur & fin...!

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Note added at 3 days 22 hrs (2020-08-25 10:24:52 GMT)
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Example sentences:
"Without him and his hamster the magazine would have more bite."
"Without him and his goldfish the magazine would swim not sink."
"Without him and his pocket pet it would be a weightier magazine."

Wolf Draeger
South Africa
Local time: 14:19
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
The person being described in from Drome/Ardeche, so maybe this is a local expression.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cyril Tollari
1 day 16 hrs
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Reference comments


2 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Everybody and his cousin

Reference information:
Or any variant thereof.
(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:everybody).


    Reference: http://greensdictofslang.com/entry/uze3naq
    Reference: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/everybody_and_his_cousin
Wolf Draeger
South Africa
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Awarding points actually for "without him and his pet goldfish", as it fits the informal tone of the overall piece better.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Cyril Tollari
4 days
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