sprachgemeinschaftlich-rational
English translation: etymologically rooted
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|  Selected response from: Lancashireman United Kingdom Local time: 08:45 | ||||||
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| 3 +3 | rational associations with linguistic communities |
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| 3 | etymologically rooted |
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etymologically rooted Explanation: https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=etymologi... or rooted in etymology peculiar to the language community rational (DE): for reasons of (EN) individuell-emotional: arousing emotions on an individual level, i.e. different connotations for different people -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2013-04-23 17:39:25 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Looking at your previous Q, this does seem to be about the rights of language minorities. Consequently, my alternative suggestion (peculiar to the language community) might be more pertinent. community-specific rooted in the language spoken etc -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2013-04-23 17:42:43 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- ... but nothing to do with the English meaning of 'rational' = 'clarity of thought processes'. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2013-04-23 17:54:24 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- In other words, I don't understand how a "rational association with a language community" might differ from an irrational one in this context. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2013-04-23 18:15:40 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- language community or linguistic community? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_language_community proz.com is a linguistically gifted community, a community of linguists, a linguistic community. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 20 hrs (2013-04-24 13:15:59 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Michael has invited me to expand on my comment above. 1) ‘rational’ is not only a false cognate here; it is performing a filler role along the same lines as ‘-technisch’ in the following examples: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/insurance/326011... http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/tech_engineering... The least sensible option is to blindly copy it across into the translation and expect it to make any sense to an English reader. 2) “According to Hilgemann, the ‘meaning’ of a name consists of elements that (a) identify the person or place, (b) are peculiar to the language community in which it is used and (c) call forth individual emotional responses.” It is irrelevant what associations (rational or irrational) the name might arouse in members of other language communities (plural). 3) ‘Language’ and ‘linguistic’ are not freely interchangeable in conjunction with ‘community’. It would have been helpful if the two voters so far had explained why they found the other version suitable for this context. Their ‘clicks’ have ensured that it will go through on the nod 14 days from now unless something else happens in the meantime. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2013-04-24 23:15:02 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Strange. Every time I post an addendum, someone clicks on 'rational associations with linguistic communities', sometimes with an 'ooh lala', sometimes with a smiley. At this rate, I expect it will be on +4 by tomorrow. |
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peer agreement (net): +3rational associations with linguistic communities Explanation: Here's my working translation for the whole sentence: "According to Hilgemann (1978, 385), the meaning of a proper name consists of identifying features, rational associations with linguistic communities and individual emotive meaning." -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 6 days (2013-04-30 04:22:55 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- Example of how the term "rational associations" is commonly used (for the uninitiated): "For example, the rational associations with Caterpillar may be around heavy construction equipment; the emotional associations may be with toughness and ruggedness, and the sensory associations may be yellow and black." |
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