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pressuposto processual

15:22 Jan 26, 2021
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Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Portuguese term or phrase: pressuposto processual
Os requeridos apresentaram contestação arguindo, preliminarmente: 1) falta de pressuposto processual, uma vez que as contas de sua Administração foram aprovadas pelo órgão responsável da empresa.
ana luiza
Brazil
Local time: 18:59


Summary of answers provided
3 +2procedural bar
Adrian MM.
3 +2procedural requirements
Lisa Rosengard
4procedural requisites
Mario Freitas
4 -1case precedent
Oliver Simões


Discussion entries: 3





  

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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
case precedent


Explanation:
pressuposto: (Jur.) Circunstância ou fato considerado como antecedente necessário de outro: A livre circulação de pessoas é o pressuposto básico da cidadania.
https://www.aulete.com.br/pressuposto

"Case Precedent. In the United States legal system, a precedent or authority is a principle or rule established in a previous legal case that is either binding on or persuasive for a court or other tribunal when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts." - https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-politicalscience...

"No case precedent requires the policyholder to obtain a UM jury verdict as a prerequisite to bringing a §624."- https://www.floridasupremecourt.org/content/download/382488/...



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Note added at 51 mins (2021-01-26 16:13:44 GMT)
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antecedente: preceding; prior; antecedent
sem precedentes: unprecedented

https://michaelis.uol.com.br/moderno-ingles/busca/portugues-...

Oliver Simões
United States
Local time: 14:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 283

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mark Robertson: 1. Not in this context. 2. Not the precise meaning. Case precedent = decided case that is binding precedent. In civil law countries, a pressuposto processual is a procedural law provision, not a case law precedent, because there is no such thing. See disc
15 hrs
  -> Thank you for the explanation.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
procedural requisites


Explanation:
https://www.google.com.br/search?client=firefox-a&biw=1293&b...


Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 18:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 842

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mark Robertson: Your answer is technically correct but the real source text/concept is "falta de pressuposto processual".
14 hrs
  -> Yes, Mark. However, the poster only asked for "procedural requisites" and in Kudoz we answer only what was asked so the glossary is correct for future searching by other colleagues, right?
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Bra. civ. proc. pressuposto processual
procedural bar


Explanation:
''..falta de pressuposto processual..' absence of any procedural bar, so to suing - contrary to the definitions in Aurelio: 4. .... antecedente necesario de outro.

Example sentence(s):
  • IATE: pressupostos processuais CJUE fundamento de inadmissibilidade de ordem pública CJUE en absolute bar to proceeding with a case CJUE

    Reference: http://iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1611683687308/1
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 111

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Robertson: Yours is the best answer. The poster failed to post the complete unit of meaning.
13 hrs
agree  ulissescarvalho
23 hrs
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
procedural requirements


Explanation:
The requirements might be also assumptions or presuppositions.
It's about a disagreement:
'The others submitted (or presented) an objection, firstly by arguing. It states a lack of procedural requirements (budgeting?) as the Administration's accounts were approved by the business company's governing organization.'
('Os requeridos apresntaram contestaçâo arguindo, preliminarmente
(1) falta de pressuposto processual, uma vez que as contas da sua Administraçâo foram aprovadas pela órgâo responsável da empresa.')

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Note added at 3 days 18 hrs (2021-01-30 10:00:46 GMT)
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'apresantaram contestaçâo, arguindo ...'
'they submitted a challenge (an objection), pleading or contesting or arguing ...'
Here's a link to show the
'falta de pressuposto processual'
'lack of procedural requirements'
https://www.deepl.com/translator#pt/en/falta de pressuposto processual
I understood it means either that some of the procedural requirements were missing, or that there were no more procedural requirements.


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Note added at 11 days (2021-02-07 04:42:27 GMT)
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Eu gostaria de saber qué seria uma resposta bôa para o pressuposto processual em vez das respostas que fizemos.
Era interssante aprender que os casos que têm precedentes podem ser considerados tambêm durante algunos processos de tomada de decisâo, que está mais presente na jurisprudencia de direito civil.
(I'd like to know what would be an acceptable response instead of the answers suggested.
Also, it was interesting to read that certain cases may have precedents which can be considered in some cases in connection with decision making processes, more so in civil law cases.)

Example sentence(s):
  • 'Escusado será dizer que este pressuposto este muito longe de qualquer cenário real, presente ou futuro.'
  • 'It need hardly be stressed that this assumption is far removed from any current and future reality.'

    https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?query=pressuposto+processual
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charles R. Castleberry: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/portuguese-to-english/law-general...
1 hr
neutral  Mark Robertson: Your answer is technically correct but the real source text/concept is "falta de pressuposto processual".
15 hrs
agree  Teresa Freixinho
1 day 23 hrs
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