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Aug 27, 2021 00:08
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Portuguese term

sujeitos periféricos

Portuguese to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. Urban Geography
The term "sujeitos", as debated in another question asked here on Proz, is translated as "individuals" when referring to "people", "agents", and that is what I am using in this translation about homeless people in central areas of the so-called "First World".

Now, the term "periféricos" is a tricky one, and it is very common term in Brazilian Portuguese when discussing social inequality in fields such as Geography, Sociology, History and other Human Sciences.

The closest to this in English is "suburbanite". However, an individual described as "periférico" not necessarily lives in the outskirts. They can also be those individuals with no fixed abode who live rough in central and rich urban areas, but have no access to social security and services, and who receive no support from authorities. Suburbanites are, more often than not, "periféricos" as well, that is, abandoned by the State in the outskirts of the city, and they live rough or, in the best scenario, in shacks and tents in slums. However, people who live in rich neighborhoods located in the suburbs are also called "suburbanite", but they are not "periféricos" (unless I am mistaken).

I have found many entries on Google that translate "sujeitos periféricos" as "peripheral subjects", which I believe to be the result of a poor translation that has been copied over and over again. As this is an important term for the translation of texts in humanities, a more appropriate translation, or the confirmation of "peripheral subjects" as the best one would be very helpful.

Context sentence:
Boa parte dos sujeitos periféricos com os quais conversamos explicam que a inexistência de negros ou árabes morando nas ruas ocorre em virtude da cooperação existente entre os mesmos.

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Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Aug 28, 2021:
Confusing I had posted 'marginalized groups' and got at least one agree. Then I deleted it because I was concerned that the term was too broad. I added "economically" to make it fit the context and now my answer is being ignored.

Proposed translations

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marginalized groups

https://eige.europa.eu/thesaurus/terms/1280#:~:text=Differen...

It usually appears like that. According to your text you can add the terms "economically" or "historically".
Peer comment(s):

agree Egon Lessa
56 mins
Obrigada, Egon!
agree Thiago Silva
3 hrs
Obrigada, Thiago!
agree Paulo Melo
1 day 2 hrs
Obrigada, Paulo!
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : I had posted "marginalized groups" and deleted it because it refers to so many diverse groups. You have simply copied my answer.
1 day 9 hrs
I haven't copied anything. I only saw your "economically marginalized people/groups" post. Don't accuse me of something without any proof. You're not the only person in the world who knows English. I don't even know you and that's not a nice thing to say
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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10 hrs

economically marginalized people/groups

'Marginalized' alone could refer to many different groups in society, but that changes if you add 'economically'.

Fair and Balanced? - Department of Journalism and ...https://journalism.cas.lehigh.edu › content › fair-and-bala...
... examines media portrayals of racial minorities and **economically marginalized groups** as well as the social and political impact of such depictions.

A Critical Cultural Wealth Model of First-Generation and ...https://journals.sagepub.com › doi › full
by PO Garriott · 2020 · Cited by 24 — **First-generation and economically marginalized (FGEM)** college students are attending higher education institutions with increasing ...


Social Policy and Social Change: Toward the Creation of ...https://books.google.com › books
Jillian Jimenez · 2010 · ‎Political Science
**Why are some ethnic groups overrepresented among economically marginalized groups?**

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Note added at 10 hrs (2021-08-27 10:56:36 GMT)
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New idea:

Another possibility might be 'disadvantaged groups'

Peer comment(s):

agree Charles R. Castleberry
1 day 2 hrs
Thank you, Charles!
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2 days 12 hrs

outliers

This is what I would use in this case.
Example sentence:

People who live past 100 are genetic outliers, whose longevity is unreachable for most of us. (Cambridge Dictionary)

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