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Gmail | authentication

Cristina Crişan — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 16:42:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Cristina Crişan
Post title: authentication

The authentication has to do with the sender's domain.
The help page has some links that explain how to check whether a message is authenticated and how to fix the problem if it isn't.
Basically, you have to open an email and click on the little arrow (the show details arrow) just below the sender's name. If the pop-up with the details doesn't have the "Mailed by" and "Signed by" headers (see the image, column on the right hand side), then the message isn't authenticated.
So far, the only action I've taken about such messages was to mark them as not spam and as important. I received a lot of e-mails from the same sender and they always landed in my inbox - until a little while ago.

Gmail | Might this be of influence?

Robert Rietvelt — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 15:37:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Robert Rietvelt
Post title: Might this be of influence?

[quote]Cristina Crişan wrote:

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:

Am I the only Gmail-user facing this problem? [/quote]

No, you're not.
The messages (from old contacts) sent to my spam folder have a question mark next to the sender's name. Clicking that question mark takes me to the following help page:

[url removed] [/quote]

Opening the link above, it reads:

"If you see a question mark next to the sender's name, the message isn't authenticated. When an email isn't authenticated, that means Gmail doesn't know if the message is coming from the person who appears to be sending it. If you see this, be careful about replying or downloading any attachments."

So, I had a look at my contacts, and found out that Google has changed the whole content, that is, all the extra information I put into it has gone, and all that is left is the email adress of the contact.

I was just wondering.

Gmail | @Thomas

Robert Rietvelt — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 12:42:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Robert Rietvelt
Post title: @Thomas

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

[quote]Rolf Keller wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk.[/quote]
??? The second link I gave you describes such an UI, contained in the Outlook versions you mentioned.
[/quote]

No it doesn't. It doesn't say anywhere that you can turn it off. And indeed you can't. Unless you do it in the Registry. With the UI, you can only adjust the protection level, not escape their nanny's firm hand. [/quote]

We are talking Gmail here, not Outlook! If you want to talk about Outlook, please start your own forum.

[Edited at 2020-06-02 09:25 GMT] [/quote]

There's no need to be rude. You asked for help. We're trying to help you.

I already gave you one suggestion about using Gmail filters, which you have ignored until now. I guess I have to say thanks for my suggestion myself.

Samuel asked if you were using an offline viewer (which is possible to do with Gmail and you hadn't said if you did), so I pointed out, as a possibility, Outlook's spam filter, which would be relevant to your problem in such a scenario. If you don't like lateral thinking in replies intended to help, then you have the option of being more specific in your question.

Rolf Keller, not I, started the unnecessary debate about his dislike of the way Outlook's spam filter can be disabled.

Sorry about trying to help. You won't hear another suggestion from me. No use trying to help people who just ignore your suggestions and then bite back. [/quote]

No rudeness meant, hence the 2x "please".

Thanks for your suggestion, didn't work, so I am still looking for a possible solution.

Once more my apologies if my answer came over too strong (but it is a Gmail topic).

Rob

[Edited at 2020-06-02 12:44 GMT]

Gmail | No need to be so rude

Thomas T. Frost — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 12:18:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Thomas T. Frost
Post title: No need to be so rude

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

[quote]Rolf Keller wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk.[/quote]
??? The second link I gave you describes such an UI, contained in the Outlook versions you mentioned.
[/quote]

No it doesn't. It doesn't say anywhere that you can turn it off. And indeed you can't. Unless you do it in the Registry. With the UI, you can only adjust the protection level, not escape their nanny's firm hand. [/quote]

We are talking Gmail here, not Outlook! If you want to talk about Outlook, please start your own forum.

[Edited at 2020-06-02 09:25 GMT] [/quote]

There's no need to be rude. You asked for help. We're trying to help you.

I already gave you one suggestion about using Gmail filters, which you have ignored until now. I guess I have to say thanks for my suggestion myself.

Samuel asked if you were using an offline viewer (which is possible to do with Gmail and you hadn't said if you did), so I pointed out, as a possibility, Outlook's spam filter, which would be relevant to your problem in such a scenario. If you don't like lateral thinking in replies intended to help, then you have the option of being more specific in your question.

Rolf Keller, not I, started the unnecessary debate about his dislike of the way Outlook's spam filter can be disabled.

Sorry about trying to help. You won't hear another suggestion from me. No use trying to help people who just ignore your suggestions and then bite back.

Gmail | Please lets stick to the topic

Robert Rietvelt — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:25:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Robert Rietvelt
Post title: Please lets stick to the topic

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

[quote]Rolf Keller wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk.[/quote]
??? The second link I gave you describes such an UI, contained in the Outlook versions you mentioned.
[/quote]

No it doesn't. It doesn't say anywhere that you can turn it off. And indeed you can't. Unless you do it in the Registry. With the UI, you can only adjust the protection level, not escape their nanny's firm hand. [/quote]

We are talking Gmail here, not Outlook! If you want to talk about Outlook, please start your own forum.

[Edited at 2020-06-02 09:25 GMT]

Gmail | No it doesn't

Thomas T. Frost — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 13:50:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Thomas T. Frost
Post title: No it doesn't

[quote]Rolf Keller wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk.[/quote]
??? The second link I gave you describes such an UI, contained in the Outlook versions you mentioned.
[/quote]

No it doesn't. It doesn't say anywhere that you can turn it off. And indeed you can't. Unless you do it in the Registry. With the UI, you can only adjust the protection level, not escape their nanny's firm hand.

Gmail | Outlook's spam filter

Rolf Keller — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 13:23:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Rolf Keller
Post title: Outlook's spam filter

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk.[/quote]
??? The second link I gave you describes such an UI, contained in the Outlook versions you mentioned.

Gmail | No undue risk when fix is properly documented

Thomas T. Frost — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 10:08:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Thomas T. Frost
Post title: No undue risk when fix is properly documented

[quote]Rolf Keller wrote:

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Right, Outlook insists on applying its own idiotic spam filter. I have zapped it in the Windows Registry. It's the only way I could find to switch it off.[/quote]
You should get an explanation via the Help function (F1). And/or via [url removed]

[url removed]

Unnessary tweaking the Registry is a common cause for unnecessary errors. [/quote]

I had looked into all that before I concluded that the only way to turn it off was to zap the Registry, as Microsoft has provided no UI for switching off this junk. It was necessary, as the junk filter was putting false positives in the junk folder.

The Registry solution is:

Outlook 2007: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\office\12.0\outlook
Outlook 2010: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\office\14.0\outlook (

Gmail | Outlook's spam filter

Rolf Keller — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 06:42:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Rolf Keller
Post title: Outlook's spam filter

[quote]Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Right, Outlook insists on applying its own idiotic spam filter. I have zapped it in the Windows Registry. It's the only way I could find to switch it off.[/quote]
You should get an explanation via the Help function (F1). And/or via [url removed]

[url removed]

Unnessary tweaking the Registry is a common cause for unnecessary errors.

Gmail | ?

Cristina Crişan — Sun, 31 May 2020 07:40:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Cristina Crişan
Post title: ?

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:

Am I the only Gmail-user facing this problem? [/quote]

No, you're not.
The messages (from old contacts) sent to my spam folder have a question mark next to the sender's name. Clicking that question mark takes me to the following help page:

[url removed]

Gmail | @Samuel

Robert Rietvelt — Sat, 30 May 2020 13:09:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Robert Rietvelt
Post title: @Samuel

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:
Since a bit more then a week or so I receive most of my (official) mail in my Spambox, even my contacts. [/quote]

Nope, I don't have this problem. Does the mail end up in Gmail's own spam box or do you use an offline viewer (e.g. Thunderbird, Outlook) and the offline viewer sorts the mail into its own spam box?
[/quote]

In Gmail's own spam box, and at random order.

Gmail | @Samuel

Robert Rietvelt — Sat, 30 May 2020 13:08:00 +0000

Gmail | Outlook

Thomas T. Frost — Sat, 30 May 2020 13:07:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Thomas T. Frost
Post title: Outlook

[quote]Samuel Murray wrote:

offline viewer (e.g. Thunderbird, Outlook) and the offline viewer sorts the mail into its own spam box?
[/quote]

Right, Outlook insists on applying its own idiotic spam filter. I have zapped it in the Windows Registry. It's the only way I could find to switch it off.

I just don't get that totalitarian, we-know-better-than-you-what’s-good-for-you attitude that we MUST let Microsoft, Google, etc. 'help' us by sending false positives to spam. Why are they so hysterical about spam filters and spam? The only spam problem I have is false positives.

Gmail | Not here

Thomas T. Frost — Sat, 30 May 2020 13:03:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Thomas T. Frost
Post title: Not here

I don't have that problem, but I use a filter to define all emails as not spam, as Gmail kept getting it wrong until I did it:

I don't use Gmail for business, though, but a web hosting solution. They also use a low-level spam filter that sometimes gets it wrong and simply, because of overzealous settings, delete email that should have been delivered. I'm only aware that it has affected emails from addresses without SSL certificates, though. Without a certified mailer, one won't get much email through to AOL, Hotmail, Gmail, etc. today anyway.

Gmail | @Robert

Samuel Murray — Sat, 30 May 2020 13:01:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Samuel Murray
Post title: @Robert

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:
Since a bit more then a week or so I receive most of my (official) mail in my Spambox, even my contacts. [/quote]

Nope, I don't have this problem. Does the mail end up in Gmail's own spam box or do you use an offline viewer (e.g. Thunderbird, Outlook) and the offline viewer sorts the mail into its own spam box?

Gmail

Robert Rietvelt — Sat, 30 May 2020 12:47:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: Gmail
Poster: Robert Rietvelt

Since a bit more then a week or so I receive most of my (official) mail in my Spambox, even from my contacts.

Am I the only Gmail-user facing this problem? Does anyone has a remedy (other then 'use another provider')?

[Edited at 2020-05-30 13:05 GMT]