Jun 1, 2008 20:03
16 yrs ago
German term
Ursachemangel
German to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
From the Allgemeine Einkaufsbedingungen of a manufacturing company (the Besteller) in relation to the companies (Auftragnehmer) from which it buys parts.
"Der Auftragnehmer ist im übrigen bei einem Ursache- oder Rechtsmangel nach den gesetzlichen Vorschriften der Minderung des Kaufpreises oder zum Rücktritt des Vertrags berechtigt. Außerdem hat der Besteller nach den gesetzlichen Vorschriften Anspruch auf Schadens- und Aufwendungsersatz."
Incidentally, "der Minderung des Kaufpreises" makes no sense to me unless it is a typo for "zu einer Minderung des Kaufpreises" - but my more specific concern is that "Ursachemangel" gets not a single Google, so what is one to make of Ursache- oder Rechtsmangel?
"Der Auftragnehmer ist im übrigen bei einem Ursache- oder Rechtsmangel nach den gesetzlichen Vorschriften der Minderung des Kaufpreises oder zum Rücktritt des Vertrags berechtigt. Außerdem hat der Besteller nach den gesetzlichen Vorschriften Anspruch auf Schadens- und Aufwendungsersatz."
Incidentally, "der Minderung des Kaufpreises" makes no sense to me unless it is a typo for "zu einer Minderung des Kaufpreises" - but my more specific concern is that "Ursachemangel" gets not a single Google, so what is one to make of Ursache- oder Rechtsmangel?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | lack of causation |
Lingua.Franca
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| 4 | insufficient cause |
KARIN ISBELL
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Proposed translations
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lack of causation
Example: Court of Appeals rules employer must show lack of causation to ...
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Note added at 45 mins (2008-06-01 20:49:19 GMT)
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I did a google search on "Sach- und Rechtsmangel", and found many references. No hits on Ursache(n)mangel.
It must be a typo after all. In which case my answer (lack of causation) is wrong :(
Sachmangel is a defect (of quality).
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Note added at 45 mins (2008-06-01 20:49:19 GMT)
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I did a google search on "Sach- und Rechtsmangel", and found many references. No hits on Ursache(n)mangel.
It must be a typo after all. In which case my answer (lack of causation) is wrong :(
Sachmangel is a defect (of quality).
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kim Metzger
: Citation needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed / I agree with defect of quality. http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law:_contracts/3...
10 mins
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| agree |
Swapna Roy
: Ursachemangel has got to do with class action suits where there is a differentiation made between general and specific causes. That doesn't seem to be the case here so I too tend to regard it as Sachmangel.
8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I'm pretty well convinced that this is indeed a typo for Sachmangel - so really the points should go to Kim, who first suggested this, but my thanks to everyone who responded."
3 hrs
KARIN ISBELL
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English
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, German
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23
insufficient cause
Langenscheidt, but yes, Kim is correct -- a citation would be helpful
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