Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

waifs and strays

French translation:

chiens perdus sans collier

Added to glossary by sarahl (X)
Jul 20, 2005 21:46
18 yrs ago
English term

waifs and strays

English to French Art/Literary Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
"Karen, a gregarious 60-year-old whose social energy knows no bounds and who seems to have a large number of **waifs and strays** in her circle of friends, was relieved, when she 'audited' her life, to find she could transfer several friends and indeed some of her extended family into her citizenship reckoning."

in a book about 'auditing' your own life.
I am 99% sure that we're not talking about "des enfants abandonnés" here. I know what is meant, I just can't find a suitable translation for it. You know how it is...

Merci beaucoup!!

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Jul 23, 2005:
merci bien � tous!
RHELLER Jul 21, 2005:
referring to people who have no place else to go - they may have no other friends or don't know how to make friends or they don't talk to their family anymore (not helpless or homeless) ; socially inept or withdrawn/sad
Non-ProZ.com Jul 20, 2005:
of course, I might be wrong: it might really mean "enfants abandonn�s". The only way I'll know is if someone is familiar with this expression in a context that doesn't involve children (BTW, this is UK English).

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chiens perdus sans collier

puisque tu aimes les idiomes

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ou des marginaux tout simplement.
Peer comment(s):

agree sporran : joliment dit !
2 hrs
merci ! :-)
agree jacrav : Bon, cha ;º) Kcikde een a looong time ago … ;)
4 hrs
was that the ti ponch kicking in?
agree Jean-Luc Dumont : subtil comme idée, mais je me demande si chiens perdus sans collier n'a pas la connotation de délinquance - c'est dans un tel contexte que je connais l'expression
6 hrs
tu penses au film ?
agree Sabine Sur
7 hrs
merci Sabine
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
1 day 16 hrs
efxaristo melenia!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "merci sarah! que ferait-on sans toi??"
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vies cachées

Je pense que c'est cela, tenant compte des explicaions ci-dessous.

Hidden Lives Revealed: A Virtual Archive - Children in Care 1881 ...
About 22500 children were looked after by the Waifs and Strays' Society between
its foundation in 1881 - and the end of the First World War in 1918. ...
www.hiddenlives.org.uk/ - 14k - 18 Jul 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.hiddenlives.org.uk ]

A Brief History of the Waifs and Strays' Society
Hidden Lives Revealed provides an intriguing encounter with children who were in
the care of The Children's Society in late Victorian and early 20th Century ...
www.hiddenlives.org.uk/articles/history.html - 22k - 18 Jul 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

Young Immigrants to Canada (including home children) -Church of ...
Church of England, Waifs and Strays Society/Children's Society. The Church of
England established the Waifs and Strays Society in 1881. ...
ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ children/Organizations/cofe.html - 3k - 19 Jul 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
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possibilité

souvent utilisé pour signifier enfants abandonnées, mais le fait que cela soit utilisé avec friends et pas young friends ou ni sans une allusion à des enfants/orphelins, et le "extended family" me font douter...

semblait compter un grand nombre de déshérités (de sans famille et sans ressources) parmi ses amis
waifs and strays
plural noun
1. Homeless and destitute people, especially children.
2. Unclaimed articles; odds and ends

But William Burke and William Hare were not hindered by these precautions. Their victims were the waifs and strays of the Old Town, people whom nobody would miss. They would be lured from the streets to their deaths and then their bodies would be sold to the medical schools. To this day nobody knows exactly how many disappeared, but the estimates at the time ran somewhere between 13 and 30.

gypsies
... stories the Gypsies are doomed to be the waifs and strays of the earth. ...
of both persons and a drop of blood was dropped on each half of the loaf, ...
www.southernlife.org.uk/gypsies.htm


A Spur for a Free Horse
There are persons living down back courts, or in narrow alleys, who never wear
... Who will look after the waifs and strays, the odds and ends of humanity? ...
www.spurgeon.org/s_and_t/spur.htm - 27k
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des parasites, des profiteurs...des sangsues...

serait peut-être le sens ici? Ils sont là, profitent d'elle, de tout ce qu'elle peut leur apporter , leur donner...
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