Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la petite et la grande ceinture
English translation:
inner and outer fortifications
Added to glossary by
Drmanu49
Dec 5, 2007 15:21
16 yrs ago
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I'm having difficulty with this phrase because it seems contradictory.
Context:
"Seule site en France à devoir assurer une défense maritime aussi bien que terrestre, Toulon a verrouillé ses ouvertures sur la mer ainsi que l'accès par la montagne.
Dans ce but, une quarantaine de forts, tours et batteries ont été construits sur la rade, la petite et la grande ceinture."
I'm pretty sure this refers to the ring of forts, towers, and batteries.
Mille Mercis!
femme
Context:
"Seule site en France à devoir assurer une défense maritime aussi bien que terrestre, Toulon a verrouillé ses ouvertures sur la mer ainsi que l'accès par la montagne.
Dans ce but, une quarantaine de forts, tours et batteries ont été construits sur la rade, la petite et la grande ceinture."
I'm pretty sure this refers to the ring of forts, towers, and batteries.
Mille Mercis!
femme
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| 4 +6 | inner and outer fortifications |
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| 5 | inner and outer areas |
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Dec 14, 2007 04:10: Barbara Cochran, MFA Created KOG entry
Dec 14, 2007 08:54: Drmanu49 changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/123909">Barbara Cochran, MFA's</a> old entry - "la petite et la grande ceinture"" to ""inner and outer fortifications""
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B D Finch
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Nina Iordache
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Thank you Nina.
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Thank you Ingerborg.
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Carol Gullidge
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Thank you Carol. Yes, too.
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inner and outer areas
Petite ceinture means the places close to the center. La ceinture is a word often used to define the outskirts or the suburbs (proche ceinture ou petite ceinture = the outskirts that are closest to the town center.
Grande ceinture: the outskirts or area that are farthest away from center. It is like a first line (front line) and a second line.
Grande ceinture: the outskirts or area that are farthest away from center. It is like a first line (front line) and a second line.
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