Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
vagos
English translation:
idler
Added to glossary by
Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
Jan 4, 2010 15:30
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term
vagos
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
"vago" o "vagos" como sustantivo referido a la no voluntad de trabajar. No se refiere a linyera.
"vago" lazy but as a noun, describing a social category of people who are not really willing to work, they say they are unemployed but they do not try hard.
"vago" lazy but as a noun, describing a social category of people who are not really willing to work, they say they are unemployed but they do not try hard.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +1 | idler / lazybones | Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.) |
4 +5 | work-shy | patinba |
4 +3 | bums | Leonardo Lamarche |
5 | shirkers/ truants | Constantinos Faridis (X) |
4 +1 | layabouts / loafers | Lisa McCarthy |
4 +1 | slackers | Carmen Lapadat |
3 +2 | the idle | HugoSteckel |
4 | deadbeats | Jeff Werstein |
4 | indolent/hanger-on | claudia16 (X) |
4 | scroungers | David Ronder |
4 | Loiters | Larisa Crossno |
3 | unemployables | Bubo Coroman (X) |
Change log
Jan 8, 2010 08:10: Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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idler / lazybones
vago, holgazán = idler, lazybones
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vago en el diccionario Español-Inglésb sm/f. 1 (=holgazán) idler, lazybones * ... Puede completar la traducción de vago propuesta por el diccionario Collins Espanol - Ingles consultando otros ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/vago - Similares
perezoso en el diccionario Español-Inglésperezoso, a. a adj lazy. b sm/f (=vago) idler, lazybones *. c sm ... de perezoso propuesta por el diccionario Collins Espanol - Ingles consultando otros ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/perezoso - Similares
Traduction vago dans le Dictionnaire Collins Espagnol-Anglais - [ Traducir esta página ]b sm/f. 1 (=holgazán) idler, lazybones * ... Lexilogos, Oxford, Cambridge, Chambers Harrap , Wordreference, Collins, Merriam-Webster . ...
dictionnaire.reverso.net/espagnol-anglais/vago - Francia
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vago en el diccionario Español-Inglésb sm/f. 1 (=holgazán) idler, lazybones * ... Puede completar la traducción de vago propuesta por el diccionario Collins Espanol - Ingles consultando otros ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/vago - Similares
perezoso en el diccionario Español-Inglésperezoso, a. a adj lazy. b sm/f (=vago) idler, lazybones *. c sm ... de perezoso propuesta por el diccionario Collins Espanol - Ingles consultando otros ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/perezoso - Similares
Traduction vago dans le Dictionnaire Collins Espagnol-Anglais - [ Traducir esta página ]b sm/f. 1 (=holgazán) idler, lazybones * ... Lexilogos, Oxford, Cambridge, Chambers Harrap , Wordreference, Collins, Merriam-Webster . ...
dictionnaire.reverso.net/espagnol-anglais/vago - Francia
Note from asker:
Thanks,I think idler is right . I found it in a sociology paper by Clément http://www.cairn.info/article.php?ID_REVUE=CEP&ID_NUMPUBLIE=CEP_049&ID_ARTICLE=CEP_049_0065 |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all those who participated. I found other sources (sociological/legal that refer to "the idle poor" or "idlers") The other terms provided by the rest can also be useful in other context. Thaks"
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shirkers/ truants
shirk (s̸hʉrk)
transitive verb
to neglect or evade doing (something that should be done)
Etymology: ? akin to Ger schurke, scoundrel, rascal
intransitive verb
to neglect or evade work, duty, etc.
Related Forms:
•shirker shirk′er noun
truant [ˈtruːənt]
n
(Social Science / Education) a person who is absent without leave, esp from school
adj
being or relating to a truant
vb
(Social Science / Education) (intr) to play truant
[from Old French: vagabond, probably of Celtic origin; compare Welsh truan miserable, Old Irish trōg wretched]
truancy n
transitive verb
to neglect or evade doing (something that should be done)
Etymology: ? akin to Ger schurke, scoundrel, rascal
intransitive verb
to neglect or evade work, duty, etc.
Related Forms:
•shirker shirk′er noun
truant [ˈtruːənt]
n
(Social Science / Education) a person who is absent without leave, esp from school
adj
being or relating to a truant
vb
(Social Science / Education) (intr) to play truant
[from Old French: vagabond, probably of Celtic origin; compare Welsh truan miserable, Old Irish trōg wretched]
truancy n
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layabouts / loafers
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slackers
''The article is entitled 'No slackers here: SLA's youngest members have the vision and enthusiasm to shape the profession''
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Note added at 19 minute (2010-01-04 15:50:14 GMT)
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The term slacker is commonly used to refer to a person who avoids work (especially British English), or (primarily in North American English) an educated person who is viewed as an underachiever.[1][2]
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The term slacker is commonly used to refer to a person who avoids work (especially British English), or (primarily in North American English) an educated person who is viewed as an underachiever.[1][2]
Peer comment(s):
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Lauren DeAre
: In the US this is well-understood as a group of people not meeting potential
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work-shy
This term of disapproval is not too insulting
Work-shy , workshy
If you describe someone as work-shy, you disapprove of them because you think they are lazy and do not want to work.
Work-shy , workshy
If you describe someone as work-shy, you disapprove of them because you think they are lazy and do not want to work.
Peer comment(s):
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Evans (X)
: I think this is an apposite term. Usually "workshy" in Br English, not hyphenated.
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Yes. Thanks!
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Noni Gilbert Riley
: Definitely my choice. Will ("actively"!) avoid employment wherever possible, so not just somehow who is slow when they are working.
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Thank-you!
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Jennifer Levey
: Best of the bunch...
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Thanks!
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liz askew
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Thank-you!
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Muriel Vasconcellos
: I wasn't familiar with the term, but I love it!
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Shows you work hard! Thanks!
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bums
Puede ser que encaje mejor en el contexto.
Peer comment(s):
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Victoria Frazier
: Me gusta tu sugerencia porque eso es lo que son, lacras de la sociedad.
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Muchas gracias Victoria.
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Tracy Mackay
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Muchas gracias Tracy.
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Richard Boulter
: I like this best in the context, for a U.S. readership. Also: hobos, tramps, panhandlers. Each is actually a specialty for getting their needs without working, but all are used in slang for 'vagos' as I heard this used in Mexico.
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Muchas gracias Richard.
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deadbeats
This is a rather informal term and somewhat offensive. A common phrase which uses this term is "deadbeat dad" which refers to a father who doesn't provide for or partake in his children's lives.
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indolent/hanger-on
x
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scroungers
Classic British English term.
'Skiver' is another in this vein, though it does not necessarily imply dishonestly claiming benfits as 'scrounger' does.
No shortage of hits - the first a discursive academic article:
Radstats: 'Our budget under attack': estimating social security fraudby P Spicker - Related articles Field, F. (1979), 'The myth of the social security scrounger', New Statesman, 16-11-79. Golding, P. & Middleton, S. (1978), 'Why is the Press so obsessed ...
www.radstats.org.uk/no070/article2.htm - Cached - Similar
FREE MARKET FAIRY TALES: Lawyers & social security scroungersLawyers & social security scroungers. Of course, we were all uplifted to the Nu Labour take a complete & utter drubbing in the Crewe by-election if for no ...
www.fmft.net/archives/003101.html - Cached
Lets emigrate to Australia and get away from all social security ...Lets emigrate to Australia and get away from all social security scroungers is on FacebookSign up for Facebook to connect with Lets emigrate to Australia ...
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=67403518014 - Cached
Flexible New Deal: a scrounger witch hunt! « Flexible New Deal ...8 Nov 2009 ... This doesn't apply to scroungers – but it will be an attack on genuine claimants – namely ... kellie on Social Security and Child Supp… ...
flexible-new-deal.co.uk/.../flexible-new-deal-a-scrounger-witch-hunt/ - Cached
Lilley's attack on foreign scroungers thwarted - Home News, UK ...PLANS by Peter Lilley, Secretary of State for Social Security, to crack down on foreign 'benefit scroungers' have been attacked by the Government's own ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../lilleys-attack-on-foreign-scroung... - Cached
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Here's the live link for the fourth reference above:
http://flexible-new-deal.co.uk/2009/11/08/flexible-new-deal-...
'Skiver' is another in this vein, though it does not necessarily imply dishonestly claiming benfits as 'scrounger' does.
No shortage of hits - the first a discursive academic article:
Radstats: 'Our budget under attack': estimating social security fraudby P Spicker - Related articles Field, F. (1979), 'The myth of the social security scrounger', New Statesman, 16-11-79. Golding, P. & Middleton, S. (1978), 'Why is the Press so obsessed ...
www.radstats.org.uk/no070/article2.htm - Cached - Similar
FREE MARKET FAIRY TALES: Lawyers & social security scroungersLawyers & social security scroungers. Of course, we were all uplifted to the Nu Labour take a complete & utter drubbing in the Crewe by-election if for no ...
www.fmft.net/archives/003101.html - Cached
Lets emigrate to Australia and get away from all social security ...Lets emigrate to Australia and get away from all social security scroungers is on FacebookSign up for Facebook to connect with Lets emigrate to Australia ...
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=67403518014 - Cached
Flexible New Deal: a scrounger witch hunt! « Flexible New Deal ...8 Nov 2009 ... This doesn't apply to scroungers – but it will be an attack on genuine claimants – namely ... kellie on Social Security and Child Supp… ...
flexible-new-deal.co.uk/.../flexible-new-deal-a-scrounger-witch-hunt/ - Cached
Lilley's attack on foreign scroungers thwarted - Home News, UK ...PLANS by Peter Lilley, Secretary of State for Social Security, to crack down on foreign 'benefit scroungers' have been attacked by the Government's own ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../lilleys-attack-on-foreign-scroung... - Cached
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Here's the live link for the fourth reference above:
http://flexible-new-deal.co.uk/2009/11/08/flexible-new-deal-...
Note from asker:
This term sounds even harder than idler because these people are not only seen as lazy but also as harming someone else. I think I could use it some other time. Thank you! |
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unemployables
refers to a certain percentage of people who have lost their desire to work through being unemployed long term or for other reasons
unemployable [ˌʌnɪmˈplɔɪəbəl]
adj
(Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) unable or unfit to keep a job
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unemployables
- it can also be used as a noun in the plural: please see same page
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I think you need a term that refers specifically to jobs, working life etc....
When "unemployable" is in the plural, it has the connotation of people who simply don't want to work, as in the title of this article below. Another synonym meaning the same thing is "malingerer", also used in the article. "Malingerer" is defined as follows:
Malinger (verb): to pretend or exaggerate incapacity or illness (as to avoid duty or work)
— ma·lin·ger·er \-gər-ər\ noun
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/malingerer
Poverty: The ***Unemployables***
The popular image of the typical dole recipient as a hale male ***malingerer*** is more than 99% myth by Government arithmetic.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,843652,00.h...
unemployable [ˌʌnɪmˈplɔɪəbəl]
adj
(Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) unable or unfit to keep a job
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unemployables
- it can also be used as a noun in the plural: please see same page
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I think you need a term that refers specifically to jobs, working life etc....
When "unemployable" is in the plural, it has the connotation of people who simply don't want to work, as in the title of this article below. Another synonym meaning the same thing is "malingerer", also used in the article. "Malingerer" is defined as follows:
Malinger (verb): to pretend or exaggerate incapacity or illness (as to avoid duty or work)
— ma·lin·ger·er \-gər-ər\ noun
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/malingerer
Poverty: The ***Unemployables***
The popular image of the typical dole recipient as a hale male ***malingerer*** is more than 99% myth by Government arithmetic.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,843652,00.h...
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: This is often used to include people who are unfit for work for medical or similar reasons even if they are in fact willing to work, not just those covered by the 'vago' concept.
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Thanks for the comment! When "unemployable" is in the plural, it has the connotation of people who simply don't want to work... I'll add a reference.
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Loiters
Just another option.
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the idle
Another option
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as in Chaplin's "the idle class" and Joan Fuster's "dictionary for the idle" - a class seen as a threat.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-01-05 08:38:13 GMT)
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Thanks, Sonia. I agree with my colleagues that register is key. "the idle" is a relatively standard academic term, I saw it used a lot when looking at cities and urbanization in the 19th and 20th Century. If you're looking for a relatively neutral and formal term, my opinion is that it's ideal. However, if you are looking for something more current, or are quoting somebody, then "slacker", "layabout" or "welfare cheat" are more apposite.
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as in Chaplin's "the idle class" and Joan Fuster's "dictionary for the idle" - a class seen as a threat.
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-01-05 08:38:13 GMT)
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Thanks, Sonia. I agree with my colleagues that register is key. "the idle" is a relatively standard academic term, I saw it used a lot when looking at cities and urbanization in the 19th and 20th Century. If you're looking for a relatively neutral and formal term, my opinion is that it's ideal. However, if you are looking for something more current, or are quoting somebody, then "slacker", "layabout" or "welfare cheat" are more apposite.
Note from asker:
Thanks to you too, I think idler could be the most suitable I found it in a sociology article refering to poverty http://www.cairn.info/article.php?ID_REVUE=CEP&ID_NUMPUBLIE=CEP_049&ID_ARTICLE=CEP_049_0065 |
Peer comment(s):
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JuliaKer
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thank you, julia
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Fernando Tognis
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gracias, fernando
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Jim Tucker (X)
: not the same as "idler"; "the idle class" generally refers to the rich, or to the capitalist class in Marxist lingo. Chaplin is making a word-play by having his character play both a rich man and a poor.//"The idle" and "the i. class" are not equivalent.
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I don't agree, I'm afraid. "idler" and the "idle class" are not the same, which is why I am not proposing "idler". "the idle" in Fuster's usage, is regularly used in academic literature to refer to a socially inactive class considered menacing
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