Oct 25, 2010 07:10
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Russian term

висят на ветках как гроздья облепихи

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context - apples growing in an orchard

What is the image here? The literal translation does not say anything to me.

Discussion

Rachel Douglas Oct 25, 2010:
Find a plant with a similar growth habit? In AE, "clustered along the branches like bittersweet berries" might work. Or "mountain ash berries" or "hawthorn berries," though none of those are quite as dense as sea buckthorn (which shrubbery catalogs offer here as an exotic, but the name is not recognizable for most readers). Not sure about UK fruit trees and shrubs. How tightly spaced do bullaces grow? For growth habit, "bittersweet" would work in both AE and BE because "European" or "Oriental" bittersweet, which has this along-the-branch growth habit, dominates in both places. On the other hand, it might be a problem to evoke a visual image of berries which are, unlike those of the sea buckthorn, inedible. ... This approach also might not work if the context is strictly Russian-literary; i.e., the speaker's invoking a local image. In that case, you could always write "clustered along the branches like sea buckthorn berries" and let the reader look up images of this striking plant: http://www.mdidea.com/products/proper/proper00305.html
Kiwiland Bear Oct 25, 2010:
Not only densely but also clustered. In tight, solid bunches.

Additional point is that they are very bright and highly visible. I think this is also relevant. I'm sure you will be able to find a good EN expression to convey the idea, no need to mention the original berry.
Arkadi Burkov Oct 25, 2010:
The image here is that of a tree heavily laden with apples (see the image provided by Michael).

Proposed translations

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hang on branches in tight clusters

Tight clusters of apples hang on branches resembling sea buckthorn berries.
OR:
Apples hang on branches like tight clusters sea buckthorn berries.


Or something along these lines.
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Douglas : I think this is the right direction. "Hang in clusters along the branches like (something) berries." I wrote additional thoughts in the discussion section.
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Many thanks, Rachel!
agree Susan Welsh : I would leave out another fruit (berries, etc.), even tho the original has it. Apples hang lilke apples--the point is that there are lots of them, I think.
13 hrs
Thank you, Susan :-)
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apples hanging like bunches of grapes

I think this simile will be ok.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Natalie : Виноградная гроздь имеет совсем иное строение, так что яблоки просто не могут расти таким образом, как виноград :-)//Но образное выражение с виноградом - не то
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В данном случае речь идет не о строении грозди, а об образном выражении, обозначающем обилие плодов.
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densely

see the photos of облепиха

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Note added at 2 mins (2010-10-25 07:13:00 GMT)
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http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=облепиха&stype=image

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-10-25 10:53:38 GMT)
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Hang on branches as bunches of sea-buckthorn.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Natalie : Весь образ пропал
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disagree Susan Welsh : agree with Natalile
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3 hrs

dripping with apples

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clinging to branches like a cloud of <your choice> berries

I don't think they exactly hang from the branches. The image is rather of something sticking or clinging to the branches. (See images). In fact, the word "облепиха" is derived from the stem word which means exactly that - stick to, cling to something.

"Cloud" rather then more mundane "bunch" or so is here to convey the poetic undertones strongly present in the original.
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