May 6, 2011 14:14
13 yrs ago
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French term
CP / Project Manager / responsable du projet
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
health and safety plan
L’approbation et la signature du CP et du Project Manager de xxxxxxx, ainsi que le responsable du projet du client.
Assuming that CP means 'chef de projet', does anyone have any ideas on how not to end up with a bunch of Project Managers?
(I suppose I could say Client's Project Manager for 'responsable'...).
Thanks for any suggestions.
Assuming that CP means 'chef de projet', does anyone have any ideas on how not to end up with a bunch of Project Managers?
(I suppose I could say Client's Project Manager for 'responsable'...).
Thanks for any suggestions.
Proposed translations
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6 mins
Judith Prince
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Works in field
Canada
detail oriented
Native in: English 
, Swahili
Works in: French to English, English to Swahili, French to Swahili, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
Director of Projects/Projects Director
I'm working in this field and in my case, the company was awarded a new contract in a different location so the Project Manager was given added responsibilities and became the "Projects Director" meaning he is overseeing all projects in the country to some extent.
Note from asker:
| Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz
2 hrs
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| neutral |
B D Finch
: You are extrapolating from one particular case. There is nothing to indicate that the CP in the question enjoyed a similar expansion of role.// You're right about rank, but CP is probably a role, not a job title.
3 hrs
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You're right but the impression that I also got was that a 'CP' refers to a higher ranking position than a project manager and thought sharing my experience would shed some light.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to you and to everyone for their input. I have put in a note to the client about whether CP is in fact higher ranking than Project Manager."
10 mins
Richard Hedger
Switzerland
Switzerland
Native in English
Specializes in field
Switzerland
Related KudoZ points
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450
Project manager of X
You have to qualify each project manager with company name or by trade.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Richard - the only problem is that CP and Project Manager both work for the same company and I have no further context as it's basically a form with a list of documents that have to be included. |
25 mins
project engineer
Another possibility.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
B D Finch
: Not wishing to upset engineers, many construction projects don't involve them in management roles. Also, which of the three roles in question did you think this applied to?
3 hrs
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3 hrs
Project Leader/Director // Project Manager // Client's/Owner's Project Manager
"Project leader (PL): The PL is responsible for achieving the project’s objectives. He is the manager 'in line'.
Project director (PD): The PD is the leader of a big project that can be broken down in sub-projects (e.g. Channel tunnel). He can also be the head of a PM organisation. OR: The OR is the representative of the owner. This function can be provided either internally or externally."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_management
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-05-06 18:56:17 GMT)
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"The Project Director, through the Project Manager,
must ensure that during this process:
• The integrity of the brief is maintained
• The project remains within the budget
• The process is completed to programme"
http://www.scim.scot.nhs.uk/PDFs/Manuals/MCP/MCP_3.pdf
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-05-06 18:59:22 GMT)
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"The Project Manager is the individual responsible for delivering the project. The Project Manager leads and manages the project team, with the authority and responsibility to run the project on a day-to-day basis. ... This role description assumes that the roles of Project Sponsor/Project Director and Project Manager are separate. Where the roles are combined with no separate interface, the Project Sponsor/Project Manager reports direct to the SRO/PO."
http://www.ogc.gov.uk/User_roles_in_the_toolkit_project_mana...
Project director (PD): The PD is the leader of a big project that can be broken down in sub-projects (e.g. Channel tunnel). He can also be the head of a PM organisation. OR: The OR is the representative of the owner. This function can be provided either internally or externally."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_management
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-05-06 18:56:17 GMT)
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"The Project Director, through the Project Manager,
must ensure that during this process:
• The integrity of the brief is maintained
• The project remains within the budget
• The process is completed to programme"
http://www.scim.scot.nhs.uk/PDFs/Manuals/MCP/MCP_3.pdf
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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-05-06 18:59:22 GMT)
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"The Project Manager is the individual responsible for delivering the project. The Project Manager leads and manages the project team, with the authority and responsibility to run the project on a day-to-day basis. ... This role description assumes that the roles of Project Sponsor/Project Director and Project Manager are separate. Where the roles are combined with no separate interface, the Project Sponsor/Project Manager reports direct to the SRO/PO."
http://www.ogc.gov.uk/User_roles_in_the_toolkit_project_mana...
Discussion
In any other context, I would translate all three terms as "project manager".
This gets rid of one of them!!