Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

études classiques

English translation:

classical studies

Added to glossary by Thierry Darlis
Jul 23, 2012 23:43
11 yrs ago
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French term

études classiques

French to English Other Education / Pedagogy
these terms are in a transcript from Haiti
elle a passé ses examens de fin d'études classiques

Discussion

Lara Barnett Jul 24, 2012:
@ Thierry37 Could you give a bit more context on this term. i.e. the section of the transcript where this appears and how the wording reads?
sktrans Jul 24, 2012:
yes, traditional/usual
kashew Jul 24, 2012:
With cchat Here I think classique (small c) = normal/traditional.
cchat Jul 24, 2012:
fin d'études classiques The item is not "études classiques", but "examens de fin d'études classiques".
More like 'school leaving certificate'.
cchat Jul 24, 2012:
not sure I think it could mean at the end of normal schooling, i.e. before going on to higher or further education. See this text:
http://www.haitiwebs.com/archive/index.php/t-46191.html

Proposed translations

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classical studies

This has always been quite a well known subject to study.

"Welcome to the Department of Classical Studies at the Open University. We study the texts, artefacts, images and ideas of ancient Greece, Rome and the Mediterranean. We study their transmission, reinterpretation and persistent presence across time, places and cultures. They are rich to think with, to create with and to argue about. They provide a critical distance from which to analyse not only the ancient world but also the intersecting traditions that link it with the contemporary world."
http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/classical-studies/index.shtml

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"Classical Studies
A classics degree embracing the study of all aspects of the cultures of Greece and Rome and their influence on later ages. Based in the heart of London, we are acknowledged as one of the very best Classics Departments in the country."
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/prospectus/undergraduate/index/name/cla...
Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo
6 mins
agree Yvonne Gallagher : can also be study of Greek, Latin, Aramaic and cultural studies at second level so not necessarily a degree course
12 mins
agree Jean-Claude Gouin
13 mins
agree Simon Charass
1 hr
agree nweatherdon
1 hr
agree ST Translations : When I studied this, it was called Classics or Classical Civilisation
7 hrs
agree EJP
8 hrs
neutral B D Finch : All well and good, but how can you relate this to the source text?
9 hrs
neutral sktrans : see discussion
12 hrs
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : If this is Classics, Greek, latin and so on, then you would expect a capital letter. Nothing to suggest that is the case here.
16 hrs
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Incorrect parsing: standard/normal school leaving exams

This - as cchat comments - is not "classics", as will be clear if you realise that it can be rephrased as "examens classiques de fin d'études".

books.google.fr/books?isbn=9264039929...2008 - Business & Economics - 238 pages
... plusieurs programmes ont adopté une démarche alternative aux examens classiques de fin d'études et aux diplômes.

www.eco-bio.info › ... › Ecoles différentes - Translate this page
4 posts - 2 authors - 23 Mar 2008
... qui seront sans doute amenés à passer les examens classiques de fin d'études (type brevet des collèges ou baccalauréat).

schools.nyc.gov/.../2012SummerSchoolPromotion...
"passages, réussites au diplôme de fin d'études secondaires .... Alternate Assessment ou NYSAA) ne passent pas les examens (classiques) de l'État de NY"

And, in the English version of the same flyer:

"*Note: English Language Learners who have been enrolled in a United States school for less than one year may be eligible
for a one time exemption from the State ELA test. Students in grades 3-8 taking the New York State Alternate Assessment
(NYSAA) do not take New York State tests."


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Ivory_Coast
"Standard school-leaving exams led to the certificate of elementary education (certificat d'étude primaires élémentaires—CEPE) and determined entrance to ..."

www.tesl-ej.org/wordpress/issues/volume10/ej37/ej37r9/
"The absence of a coherent link between the official school curriculum and the standard school-leaving exams is commented on by teachers in several chapters."

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Oops: "school-leaving exams", not "school leaving exams".
Peer comment(s):

agree kashew
1 hr
Thanks kashew
agree sktrans
3 hrs
Thanks sktrans
agree Stéphanie Warren : this is a case of leaving school with the standard qualification rather than getting a qualification in classical studies (Latin, litterature, philosophy etc.)
5 hrs
Yes, absolutely nothing to do with classical studies.
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
7 hrs
Thanks Nikki
agree LJC (X)
12 hrs
Thanks Lesley
agree SJLD : without any doubt whatsoever - no one, not even Haitians, would refer to final university exams as "examens de fin d'études", whether classics or rocket science
1 day 8 hrs
Thanks. Indeed, and Haitian children are unlikely take their school-leaving exams in Ancient Greek.
agree Charles Stanford : Robbed!
4163 days
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Reference comments

7 hrs
Reference:

Leaving certificate?

En fait, seulement quinze candidats haïtiens se sont inscrits au programme cette année. Neuf d'entre eux, recommandés par les secteurs public et privé du pays, ont réussi à être sélectionnés parmi d'autres internationaux. Les critères de sélection étaient axés principalement sur la compétence des postulants, leur connaissance de l'anglais et les résultats des examens de fin d'études classiques.
« C'est en fonction de leur qualité, leur maîtrise de l'anglais, leur note aux examens de Baccalauréat ou à l'université, le concours de dissertation, la recommandation de leur service que les postulants bénéficient du programme », explique M. Yang Cheng-Ta, qui se dit satisfait jusqu'à présent du comportement des boursiers haïtiens à Taiwan. « Jusqu'à présent, tous les boursiers haïtiens qui ont étudié là-bas sont revenus servir leur pays. Je suis très content de cela », dit-il.

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Second reference
La Commission for Investigation of Abuse and autority, la C.I.A.A., demande au gouvernement que les questions des épreuves du School Leaving Certificate, le S.L.C. – qui est l’examen de fin d’études classiques, celui qui précède l’entrée au Collège, dans une Université, des écoles spécialisées - soient imprimées au Népal et non en Inde comme cela se fait actuellement. Cette mesure avait pour but d’éviter la corruption. No comment !

http://nepalsherpasig.fr/?tag=trekkeur
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Sheila Wilson
39 mins
Thanks.
agree kashew
49 mins
Thanks.
agree Jennifer White : Yes, I am sure that this is correct here. Not "classical studies".
59 mins
Thanks.
agree B D Finch
1 hr
Thanks.
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