and his wife

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mi \"concuñado\" puede ser
1. esposo de la hermana de mi esposo/esposa
2. hermano del esposo/esposa de mi hermano/hermana

"Como todos los sábados mi mujer y yo nos reunimos con su hermana gemela y su marido. Estas reuniones eran muy agradables, pues por fortuna mi concuño y yo tenemos mucho en común."

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Regarding Sol\'s comment to Manzana above: I really do think you would say \"...and his wife.\"

Personally, I don\'t always refer to my husband\'s brother\'s wife as my \"sister-in-law\" -- I\'ll say something like \"My brother-in-law and his wife are coming to visit.\" This also helps distinguish who is the blood-relation.

It's only my husband's (or wife's) brother-in-law as long as he is not my brother! In other words, my husband's sister's husband.

I hope that's crear X-)

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my brother-in-law\'s brother
my sister-in-law\'s brother


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In easier terms, it\'s
the relationship between the sibilings of two spouses
and
the relationship between the spouses of two sibilings

So in spanish should be:
Mi cuñada (sister in law) y esposo
My sister in law and husband
unless he is married again
que lío!

but I have to say I totally and absolutely AGREE with Luis, Clara you are extremely ill mannered. Nobody is trying to hang Susana, we're just expressing our opinions, like you, but without the nasty comments and sarcastic remarks. You'd do the world a favor by keeping those type of comments to yourself.


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the point is, if this man is my sister-in-law\'s husband (concuño) then why the \"y su esposa\". It\'s like saying (this is just an example) my sister-in-law and her husband, when actually he is my brother, the \"natural\" way to express it would be my brother and his wife or my brother and my sister-in-law (end of my example). So, the point is, if this guy is my sister-in-law\'s husband, then that\'s how it should be expressed, be it Spanish or English...el marido de mi cuñada / mi concuñado, concuño
my sister-in-law\'s husband... and definitely NOT \"mi concuño y su esposa\" which is just creating a lot of confusion and misunderstandings. Just my opinion.

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concuñado, da.
(De con- y cuñado).
1. m. y f. Cónyuge de una persona respecto del cónyuge de otra persona hermana de aquella.
2. m. y f. Hermano o hermana de una de dos personas unidas en matrimonio respecto de las hermanas o hermanos de la otra.


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concuñado
<< concuerde concupiscencia >>

concuñado
(Spanish)


con·cu·ña·do
m. - husband of one\'s sister-in-law

f. - wife of one\'s brother-in-law

INFLECTED FORMS: concuñada - f.
concuñadas - f.
concuñados - f.
concuñada - m.
concuñadas - m.
concuñados - m.


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Glossary for the Genealogist

concuñado(a) - spouse brother(sister)-in-law

www.rootsweb.com

Spanish term (edited): Mi concu�o y su esposa

WHAT A MESS!!!
I think it's best if we put some names. Personal works best. Then you can draw these people on paper and start making the ties. Or you can translate into your personal experience to get a clear idea:

OPTION 1:
I am Luis
I have a sister named Ana married to Matt
Matt has one brother and one sister
Matt's brother Brad is my concuño (concuñado) and viceversa, I am his too. So we are concuños.

ANSWER 1:
My brother-in-law's brother and his wife
(Now, all of the characters above may change, except the fact that in the answer below brother and his wife havee to remain to match your question. Example: My brother Oscar is married to Jane; Janés brother Chip is my concuño. Here it would be "My sister-in-law's brother and his wife")

OPTION 2:
I am Luis. I am married to Virginia.
I have a sister named Ana married to Matt.
Matt and Virginia are concuños.
Matt is the concuño of Virginia, and Virginia is the concuña of Matt.

ANSWER 2:
So, in this case, Virginia would say...
"My sister-in-law's husband and her wife." THIS WOULD NOT WORK, AS THE WIFE IN THIS SENTENCE IS VIRGINIA'S SISTER IN LAW, AND SHE WOULD SAY IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND : "My sister-in-law and her husband."
It would not work with the example of my brother Oscar and his wife Jane either.

So, my informed response, is that it's option 1.
Either:
My brother-in-law's brother and his wife
OR
My sister-in-law's brother and his wife

All other relationships described above except these described in the two options above may be culturally valid, but they definitely do not match the Spanish Language Academy's definition for the word concuñado(a), synonym of concuño(a)

Luis







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PARA SUSANA GALIELEA:

Claro, ya vi lo que hiciste. Tienes razón, pero sin más contxto me parece un poco reaching. Tu manera de ponerlo es mucho más sencilla y natural dicha my sister-in-law and her husband. Además, salvando los géneros, es lo mismo que ha puesto mknybonz y nadie está de acuerdo, mientras que tú tienes muchos votos. ¡Cuántos amigos tienes! Great minds think alike, I guess. Un saludo. Luis

Spanish term (edited): Mi concu�o y su esposa

My husband's brother in law's wife is my husbands sister. So her husband is my husband's brother in law. (Mi concuño y su esposa)

what a family mess!!!
cuñado= brother -in-law(my wife's brother)
concuñado= my sister-in-law's husband