Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Russia\'s Putin
English answer:
lazy, but not necessarily disrespectful
Added to glossary by
Oleg Osipov
Dec 28, 2012 11:39
11 yrs ago
English term
Russia's Putin
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"Russia's Putin signs U.S. adoption ban"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/28/putin-si...
From what I see here, the implication is that there should be Germany's Merkel, Italy's Berlusconi, etc. :)
Any hidden connotation here?
Thank you for your input and clarification.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/28/putin-si...
From what I see here, the implication is that there should be Germany's Merkel, Italy's Berlusconi, etc. :)
Any hidden connotation here?
Thank you for your input and clarification.
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3 +7 | lazy, but not necessarily disrespectful | B D Finch |
2 -1 | a tad derogatory | Jonathan MacKerron |
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lazy, but not necessarily disrespectful
Though this format is widely used by major news organisations, I think it is lazy. It seems to be used in headlines to save space.
Here are some examples of similar usage:
"David Cameron clashes with France's Sarkozy over euro
Prime Minister David Cameron has clashed with French President Nicolas Sarkozy over the UK's involvement in discussions about the eurozone crisis."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10541400
"France's Sarkozy: In court and political exile."
uk.reuters.com/.../uk-eu-summit-merkel-idUKBRE8BD02Y2012121...
"Germany's Merkel - EU leaders agree roadmap for future of currency .. "
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/11/29/us-british-press-in...
"Britain's Cameron rejects press law after hacking scandal"
Here are some examples of similar usage:
"David Cameron clashes with France's Sarkozy over euro
Prime Minister David Cameron has clashed with French President Nicolas Sarkozy over the UK's involvement in discussions about the eurozone crisis."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10541400
"France's Sarkozy: In court and political exile."
uk.reuters.com/.../uk-eu-summit-merkel-idUKBRE8BD02Y2012121...
"Germany's Merkel - EU leaders agree roadmap for future of currency .. "
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/11/29/us-british-press-in...
"Britain's Cameron rejects press law after hacking scandal"
Note from asker:
Thank you! |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Simon Mac
18 mins
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Thanks Simon
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agree |
Arabic & More
43 mins
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Thanks Amel
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agree |
Trudy Peters
51 mins
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Thanks Trudy
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writeaway
: typical journalist speak. nothing wrong with it-hardly something that would cause a cause a stir.
2 hrs
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Thanks writeaway and season's greetings. Yes, I'm coming round to the idea that it's not really lazy; but I still, personally, don't like it.
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Katalin Horváth McClure
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Thanks Katalin
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Filippe Vasconcellos de Freitas Guimarães
: Pretty standard.
12 hrs
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Thanks FV
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Peter Skipp
: Entirely acceptable journalese. America's Kennedy, etc. And not at all derogatory!
22 hrs
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Thanks Peter. Yes, as noted above, it probably is unfair to call it lazy, even if it strikes me that way.
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veratek
: nothing lazy about it - headlines are usually shortened considerably// by that logic, it's even shorter without the "US adoption" too - but they wanted to signal both countries
1 day 1 hr
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It would be even shorter without "Russia's".
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Tony M
: Quite agree: typical journalese, maybe not lazy, just extremely succinct ;-) / Absolutely!
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Thanks Tony. Perhaps the thing about it that I register as "lazy" is the sort of chatty, fake familiarity. But that's standard journalism. ;(
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Comment: "Thank you!"
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2 mins
a tad derogatory
Typical US-point-of-view lingo for anything/anyone that is not American
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
writeaway
: typical point of view- or just everyday journalist speak??? /but the use of Russia's Putin isn't derogatory, it's typical newspaper writing. Here's the why and wherefore: http://times247.com/articles/russian-retaliation-may-ban-u-s...
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if it's US Today, then definitely always with a point of view//of course it's typical - for a certain type of journalism
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Peter Skipp
: I cannot agree about it being derogatory to any extent; this is commonplace journalese, seen and heard umpteen times daily
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veratek
: that's a false projection
1 day 1 hr
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Discussion
Totally agree and with Peter (Rome's Caesar, Egypt's Nasser, etc.). I think people are projecting antagonistic political feelings simply because they exist elsewhere, but are not present in the expression queried.
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