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Mar 7, 2013 14:18
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Urdu term
"neki kar dariya mein daal"
Urdu to English
Art/Literary
Linguistics
general sentences
Tell equivalent proverb in English.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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Urdu term (edited):
\"neki kar dariya mein daal\"
If you confer a favour, do not boast.
It is a proverb and literal translation is not done for this.
Peer comment(s):
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Dr. Muhammad Salman Riaz
: Brief but comprehensive!
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Thanks!!
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amarpaul
: Well rendered.
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Thanks!!
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Cheemanum
: The second part "do not boast" is out of context, I'm afraid. Act of boasting is quite different from the act of "dariya mein dal".
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Thanks for your comments. Please have a look on my disussuion entry posted above., Regards.
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It will not be lost if you do good and forget it.
Self explanatory
Peer comment(s):
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Dr. Muhammad Salman Riaz
: Brother, the part "it will not be lost" is out of context, and hence an unnecessary addition. The sense that it is giving is that the person doing good would get rewarded; this sense (i.e. receiving a reward), however, is not covered in the given proverb.
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Thanks for your comment. However, your point does not seem to be valid. I have taken this translation from "Popular Oxford Practical dictionary"; trusted publisher. However, we can contact the publisher if you could provide valid arguments.
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Cheemanum
: Good answer. The reference is also reliable.
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Discretion should follow your act of kindness
"neki" embraces a vast array of meanings such as "goodness," "charity," "kindness," "virtuousness," etc....here are some other options:
Cover your kindness with discretion
Follow generosity with discretion
Hide from the world what you do for another
Hide your charity
Do good to others with discretion
Do not seek audience for your acts of charity
Seek not audience for your acts of goodness
-----Another nuance of this saying is that one should remove the memory of good deeds even from oneself so as not to feel proud:
Do not keep score of your good deeds
True charity does not seek reward
True charity is one forgotten by philanthropist
Cover your kindness with discretion
Follow generosity with discretion
Hide from the world what you do for another
Hide your charity
Do good to others with discretion
Do not seek audience for your acts of charity
Seek not audience for your acts of goodness
-----Another nuance of this saying is that one should remove the memory of good deeds even from oneself so as not to feel proud:
Do not keep score of your good deeds
True charity does not seek reward
True charity is one forgotten by philanthropist
Peer comment(s):
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Dr. Muhammad Salman Riaz
: I don't understand how 'discretion' could be used here? The sense that the proverb is giving could simply be summarised as: "Do good and forget it." So, I do not understand how 'discretion' could give the meaning of 'forgetting!'
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Thank you for pointing that out...just posted revised answer.
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Irshad Muhammad
: Excellent suggestion. Additional choices are also good to choose from.
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Thank you...but please note the revised answer with correct homophone.
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1 day 3 mins
Acts of kindness should be done discreetly
(Salman Riaz sahib's comment made me aware I was using "discrete," instead of "discreet." So here's the revised answer.)
"neki" embraces a vast array of meanings such as "goodness," "charity," "kindness," "virtuousness," etc....here are some other options:
Be discreet with your kindness
Discreetness must follow generosity
Hide from the world what you do for another
Hide your charity
Do good to others with discreetness
Do not seek audience for your acts of charity
Seek not audience for your acts of goodness
-----Another nuance of this saying is that one should remove the memory of good deeds even from oneself so as not to feel proud:
Do not keep score of your good deeds
True charity does not seek reward
True charity is one forgotten by philanthropist
"neki" embraces a vast array of meanings such as "goodness," "charity," "kindness," "virtuousness," etc....here are some other options:
Be discreet with your kindness
Discreetness must follow generosity
Hide from the world what you do for another
Hide your charity
Do good to others with discreetness
Do not seek audience for your acts of charity
Seek not audience for your acts of goodness
-----Another nuance of this saying is that one should remove the memory of good deeds even from oneself so as not to feel proud:
Do not keep score of your good deeds
True charity does not seek reward
True charity is one forgotten by philanthropist
Peer comment(s):
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Dr. Muhammad Salman Riaz
: Jazak ALLAH for taking my comment just as a positive criticism! Great choices provided by you, indeed.
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2 days 15 hrs
Virtue is its own reward
Dear fellows. There is a famous equivalent for this Urdu proverb, so a translation in this sense is not needed.
Prov. You should not be virtuous in hopes of getting a reward, but because it makes you feel good to be virtuous.
Prov. You should not be virtuous in hopes of getting a reward, but because it makes you feel good to be virtuous.
Example sentence:
Bill: If I help you, will you pay me? Fred: Virtue is its own reward.
4 days
Do a kindness and forget it.
The translation I have suggested conveys the meaning of the original faithfully and idiomatically -- one can imagine a native English speaker saying it -- but as far as I am aware, it is not a proverb in English.
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Note added at 5 days (2013-03-13 00:02:17 GMT)
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On further thought, in my opinion the following literal translation will work very well in English in the sense that an English speaker will immediately understand what it means and it has the quality of a proverb:
Do a kindness and consign it to the river.
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Note added at 5 days (2013-03-13 00:02:17 GMT)
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On further thought, in my opinion the following literal translation will work very well in English in the sense that an English speaker will immediately understand what it means and it has the quality of a proverb:
Do a kindness and consign it to the river.
Discussion
Having said that, please allow me to explain my answer again. IMO, this proverb is used when we want to say that ‘if you do a favor or good or virtue, then you should not speak about it with exaggeration or a feeling of pride but, instead, forget it forever (or Darya mein daal).
It is expected that it explains my point to some extent. (I picked this translation from an old UR>EN resource named ‘STANDARD URDU ENGLISH DICTIONARY’ published by Kitabistan Publishers, Lahore.