Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
lequel il donne pouvoir en son nom à l\'effet
English translation:
whom he authorises to... on his behalf
French term
Algeria
High quality & commitment to deadlines
Native in: Arabic (Variant: Algerian)
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to Arabic, and 1 more.
lequel il donne pouvoir en son nom à l'effet
Contexte:
Lequel a, par ces présentes, constitué comme mandataire:
Monsieur...........
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lequel il donne pouvoir en son nom à l'effet:
de procéder à l'achat d'un appartement............
- Je cherche l'équivalent exact de l'expression sus-mentionnée
Merci !
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Daryo
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Mar 21, 2013 17:22: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Bus/Financial" , "Field (specific)" from "Environment & Ecology" to "Real Estate"
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Proposed translations
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
whom he authorises (to purchase an apartment) on his behalf
acting under power of attorney
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philgoddard
: The document itself is a power of attorney, so if you say "acting under power of attorney", it's kind of a circular argument.
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yes but no but yes but no but yes..
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AllegroTrans
: unnecessary repetition
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Daryo
: "à l'effet" is not redundant - it's the key part of a general form
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depends how you formulate the ensuing sentence and in this case there is no ensuing "list"... but i'm hearing you all loud and clear!
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whom he (or she) authorises to act on his (or her) behalf in the matter of
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"whom he (or she) authorises to act on his (or her) behalf in the matter of"
"Procuration
Le Mandant:
[... identification du Mandant ...]
Lequel a, par ces présentes, constitué comme mandataire:
[... identification du mandataire ...]
Lequel il (elle) donne pouvoir en son nom à l’effet:
[... ...]
Par devant nous, .... Consul Général de la République Algérienne Démocratique et Populaire à New York, [ou autre fonctionnaire]"
[http://www.algeria-cgny.org/pdf/PROCURATION.pdf]
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writeaway
: in English, à l'effet doesn't add anything. "to" sums it up. Is lovely French but is overkill in English. not necessary to the meaning. not really wrong if it's there (matters if more than 1) but it adds nothing so is indeed redundant/superfluous
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yes, you could simply leave it implied. I simply prefer to put it - (and I do tend to keep it short and simple) //matter(s) ... noted.
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Jane Proctor (X)
: ditto.. i guess you must be being paid per target language word!
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I'm perfectly aware that verbosity is to be avoided; I simply feel that here "in the matter(s) of" is a good transition/introduction to what follows.
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writeaway
: yes, but this is so basic that the actual context hardly matters. it's virtually everyday language. /it would be the same in any case, civil servant or anyone else. doesn't change the translatation
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It does matter: the main sentence is written from the viewpoint of the civil servant (="we") authenticating the signature of the principal(="him/her" here), not as usual where the principal is the "we" / and "him/here" the attorney.
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