Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten
English translation:
knowledge and skills
Added to glossary by
Karen Watkins
Apr 6, 2013 10:10
11 yrs ago
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German term
Germany
Scientific & technical expertise
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: German to English
Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten
German to English
Other
Education / Pedagogy
Context:
"Die Studenten können das erworbene Wissen sowie Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten bei realen Problemstellungen anwenden."
I'm thinking along the lines of "knowledge and skills and abilities", but this seems rather redundant to me. Wouldn't "knowledge and skills" suffice, or does that lose necessary information?
* Sentence or paragraph where the term occurs: See above
* Document type: Course syllabus description
* Target audience: Students
* Country and dialect (source): German
* Country and dialect (target): British English
"Die Studenten können das erworbene Wissen sowie Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten bei realen Problemstellungen anwenden."
I'm thinking along the lines of "knowledge and skills and abilities", but this seems rather redundant to me. Wouldn't "knowledge and skills" suffice, or does that lose necessary information?
* Sentence or paragraph where the term occurs: See above
* Document type: Course syllabus description
* Target audience: Students
* Country and dialect (source): German
* Country and dialect (target): British English
Proposed translations
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| 4 +8 | knowledge and skills |
Karen Watkins
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| 4 +1 | skills |
philgoddard
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| 4 +1 | competencies |
Lirka
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| 4 | skills and abilities |
Renata Lapinska
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| 4 | skills and attitude(s) |
Lancashireman
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| 3 | talents and proficiencies |
Ramey Rieger (X)
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| 3 | skills and techniques |
Michael Martin, MA
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References
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Change log
Apr 20, 2013 09:10: Karen Watkins Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Karen Watkins
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
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knowledge and skills
I think 'abilities' would be redundant here.
Knowledge and skills is a common formulation in education and I think would cover all bases.
Knowledge and skills is a common formulation in education and I think would cover all bases.
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mill2
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Daniel Gray
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BrigitteHilgner
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Ulrike Lechner
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writeaway
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Helen Shiner
: knowledge is not much use unless you know how to apply it. For me one is the acquisition of something theoretical; the other its application. They are not the same thing. And as Andrew says elsewhere, attitude is a third relevant category.
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anasta12
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Judith Shiozawa (X)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
7 mins
skills and abilities
skills and abilities
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philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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51
skills
They both mean the same thing in English, so anything like
'skills and abilities' is tautology.
'skills and abilities' is tautology.
Note from asker:
| Thanks. As I thought. |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: a good example from the school of minimalist translation? hopefully and presumably asker is being paid by source word, not target. and isn't overly concerned about style :D
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I find it depressing to see that some people think that the customer is being cheated if the translation has fewer words than the original.
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Lancashireman
: As St Jerome (the patron saint of translators) once so aptly put it: “By all means change a conjunction into an adverb or a verb into a gerund, but when you omit a noun, you are short-changing the customer.”
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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370
skills and attitude(s)
Bloom's Taxonomy of Learning Domains
Trainers often refer to these three categories as KSA (Knowledge, Skills, and Attitude)...
http://www.nwlink.com/~donclark/hrd/bloom.html
Knowledge, skills and attitude make up the three most important ingredients of career success. While knowledge and skills can be gained, can one be trained to have the right ‘attitude’?
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/227430/master-triangle-s...
http://www.babcp.com/Accreditation/CBP/KSA.aspx
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Here is a good explanation: http://www.ctc-health.org.cn/file/2010060703.pdf
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In the 1990s, some British educationists came up with the acronym SACK: skills, attitudes, concepts and knowledge.
It looks like 'concepts' may have been subsumed under 'knowledge', but 'attitude' remains a separate idea.
Fertig = what you are ready or prepared to do.
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It would be really helpful if all those people endorsing a three-nouns-into-two solution would also expand on their views in the form of comments rather than performing Pavlovian clicks on 'agree'.
(As the client, I would demand a 12-cent reduction.)
Trainers often refer to these three categories as KSA (Knowledge, Skills, and Attitude)...
http://www.nwlink.com/~donclark/hrd/bloom.html
Knowledge, skills and attitude make up the three most important ingredients of career success. While knowledge and skills can be gained, can one be trained to have the right ‘attitude’?
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/227430/master-triangle-s...
http://www.babcp.com/Accreditation/CBP/KSA.aspx
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Note added at 46 mins (2013-04-06 10:56:28 GMT)
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Here is a good explanation: http://www.ctc-health.org.cn/file/2010060703.pdf
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Note added at 50 mins (2013-04-06 11:00:50 GMT)
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In the 1990s, some British educationists came up with the acronym SACK: skills, attitudes, concepts and knowledge.
It looks like 'concepts' may have been subsumed under 'knowledge', but 'attitude' remains a separate idea.
Fertig = what you are ready or prepared to do.
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-04-06 11:46:31 GMT)
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It would be really helpful if all those people endorsing a three-nouns-into-two solution would also expand on their views in the form of comments rather than performing Pavlovian clicks on 'agree'.
(As the client, I would demand a 12-cent reduction.)
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Is your last comment serious?
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0.12 EUR for the missing word. Not 12 percent, of course.
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talents and proficiencies
another possibility
+1
8 hrs
competencies
Look at this website of a Canadian university:
http://www.uvic.ca/coopandcareer/studentsalumni/resources/co...
"Competencies are the knowledge, skills and attributes you can develop in every aspect of your life. As more and more supervisors focus on competencies in the hiring process, successful candidates will be those who can communicate their competencies in their résumés and at interviews."
Alternatively, you can use "skills and know-how"
http://www.uvic.ca/coopandcareer/studentsalumni/resources/co...
"Competencies are the knowledge, skills and attributes you can develop in every aspect of your life. As more and more supervisors focus on competencies in the hiring process, successful candidates will be those who can communicate their competencies in their résumés and at interviews."
Alternatively, you can use "skills and know-how"
Peer comment(s):
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oa_xxx (X)
: could also work and similar relationship to skills/abilities as the 2 German words
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Thanks, orla :)
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
Works in field
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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178
skills and techniques
I think this is exactly what we're looking for:
"Students can put their acquired knowledge into action by applying their skills and techniques to real situations."
Example from link below:
"Participants will be encouraged to share their experience and put their skills and techniques into action under the guidance of leading professionals in this field."
"Students can put their acquired knowledge into action by applying their skills and techniques to real situations."
Example from link below:
"Participants will be encouraged to share their experience and put their skills and techniques into action under the guidance of leading professionals in this field."
Reference comments
5 hrs
Reference:
Abgrenzung / Überschneidung der Begriffe Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten
Das Leistungspotenzial einer Person wird mit Attributen wie Begabung, Erfahrung, Wissen, Fähigkeit und Fertigkeit beschrieben. Insbesondere die Begriffe Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten sind dabei definitorisch und umgangssprachlich nicht überschneidungsfrei. So kann eine Begabung durch spezielle Trainingsmaßnahmen zu besonderen Fähigkeiten entwickelt werden. Fähigkeiten werden dabei als Kompetenzen verstanden, die ein Individuum unabhängig von der definierten Aufgabe besitzt. Fertigkeiten beschreiben dabei eher das erlernbare sowie anwendungs- und funktionsbereite Können einer Person. Fähigkeiten können somit als Grundlage für die Herausbildung von Fertigkeiten verstanden werden. Bei der Bewältigung von Aufgaben wirken Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten zusammen. So beinhaltet das erworbene Leistungsvermögen, z.B. zum Bedienen einer Maschine, kognitive Fähigkeiten der komplexen Informationsverarbeitung und motorische Fertigkeiten zur Bedienungng der Maschine (Hentze (1997)).
http://widawiki.wiso.uni-dortmund.de/index.php/Fähigkeit#Abg...
Fer|tig|keit
a) bei der Ausführung bestimmter Tätigkeiten erworbene Geschicklichkeit; Routine, Technik
b) Kenntnisse, Fähigkeiten
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Fertigkeit
Fä|hig|keit
1) geistige, praktische Anlage, die zu etwas befähigt; Wissen, Können, Tüchtigkeit
2) das Imstandesein, In-der-Lage-Sein, das Befähigtsein zu etwas, Vermögen, etwas zu tun
3) (Fachsprache) durch bestimmte Anlagen, Eigenschaften geschaffene Möglichkeit, gewisse Funktionen zu erfüllen, gewissen Anforderungen zu genügen, etwas zu leisten
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Faehigkeit
Perhaps techniques could be used for Fertigkeiten?
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knowledge, skills and techniques...
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Note added at 18 hrs (2013-04-07 04:54:34 GMT)
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Just wanted to add some of the text from the link that Johanna Timm provides below cos I think it kind of hits the nail on the head:
2.1 Knowledge, skills and competence
This section will highlight the different kinds of learning outcomes that can be acquired by learners.
Learning outcomes are categorized as: knowledge, skill, and competence. Depending of the level of understanding the person is obtaining.
Knowledge: the outcome of the assimilation of information through learning. Knowledge is the body of facts, principles, theories and practices that is related to a field of work or study.
Skills: means the ability to apply knowledge and use know-how to complete tasks and solve problems.
Competencies: means the proven ability to use knowledge and skills in work or study situations and in professional and personal development. One key aspect of a competence is the degree of autonomy and responsibility with which students are able to apply knowledge and skills
Das Leistungspotenzial einer Person wird mit Attributen wie Begabung, Erfahrung, Wissen, Fähigkeit und Fertigkeit beschrieben. Insbesondere die Begriffe Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten sind dabei definitorisch und umgangssprachlich nicht überschneidungsfrei. So kann eine Begabung durch spezielle Trainingsmaßnahmen zu besonderen Fähigkeiten entwickelt werden. Fähigkeiten werden dabei als Kompetenzen verstanden, die ein Individuum unabhängig von der definierten Aufgabe besitzt. Fertigkeiten beschreiben dabei eher das erlernbare sowie anwendungs- und funktionsbereite Können einer Person. Fähigkeiten können somit als Grundlage für die Herausbildung von Fertigkeiten verstanden werden. Bei der Bewältigung von Aufgaben wirken Fähigkeiten und Fertigkeiten zusammen. So beinhaltet das erworbene Leistungsvermögen, z.B. zum Bedienen einer Maschine, kognitive Fähigkeiten der komplexen Informationsverarbeitung und motorische Fertigkeiten zur Bedienungng der Maschine (Hentze (1997)).
http://widawiki.wiso.uni-dortmund.de/index.php/Fähigkeit#Abg...
Fer|tig|keit
a) bei der Ausführung bestimmter Tätigkeiten erworbene Geschicklichkeit; Routine, Technik
b) Kenntnisse, Fähigkeiten
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Fertigkeit
Fä|hig|keit
1) geistige, praktische Anlage, die zu etwas befähigt; Wissen, Können, Tüchtigkeit
2) das Imstandesein, In-der-Lage-Sein, das Befähigtsein zu etwas, Vermögen, etwas zu tun
3) (Fachsprache) durch bestimmte Anlagen, Eigenschaften geschaffene Möglichkeit, gewisse Funktionen zu erfüllen, gewissen Anforderungen zu genügen, etwas zu leisten
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Faehigkeit
Perhaps techniques could be used for Fertigkeiten?
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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-04-06 15:23:39 GMT)
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knowledge, skills and techniques...
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Note added at 18 hrs (2013-04-07 04:54:34 GMT)
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Just wanted to add some of the text from the link that Johanna Timm provides below cos I think it kind of hits the nail on the head:
2.1 Knowledge, skills and competence
This section will highlight the different kinds of learning outcomes that can be acquired by learners.
Learning outcomes are categorized as: knowledge, skill, and competence. Depending of the level of understanding the person is obtaining.
Knowledge: the outcome of the assimilation of information through learning. Knowledge is the body of facts, principles, theories and practices that is related to a field of work or study.
Skills: means the ability to apply knowledge and use know-how to complete tasks and solve problems.
Competencies: means the proven ability to use knowledge and skills in work or study situations and in professional and personal development. One key aspect of a competence is the degree of autonomy and responsibility with which students are able to apply knowledge and skills
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Lancashireman
: Enter this as an answer, Orla. I would rather see any three-noun solution prevail than the cop-out that has been so casually endorsed by other visitors to this page.
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;) tho I'm wondering now if competence might be better?
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Johanna Timm, PhD
: or: "knwowledge, skills and competence" http://labspace.open.ac.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=426681
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yes, that probably comes very close to the German, the meaning of the words all overlap but are slightly different too!
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Discussion
"skills" means the ability to apply knowledge and use know-how to complete tasks and solve problems.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?mode=dbl&lng1=de,en&lang=...
ANNEX I, (h)