Aug 9, 2013 20:23
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Czech term

útulek pro zestárlé služky

Czech to English Social Sciences History
I know how the convey the basic meaning, but can't find the register....

Discussion

Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
But also, as I have noted, if they're paying subsidized rent, a lodging house (e.g. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7655523.html )
Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
If it's for temporary relief (see my first question...), then "shelter" or "refuge".
Hannah Geiger (X) Aug 10, 2013:
I think that "asylum" would/might imply someone more destitute, physically and/or mentally.
Pavel Slama (asker) Aug 10, 2013:
BTW, can "asylum" be used as a name for any type of social home? Sounds wrong to me...
Pavel Slama (asker) Aug 10, 2013:
...shelter would be more suitable to describe temporary hostel-type accommodation, I think.
Pavel Slama (asker) Aug 10, 2013:
Great Google detective work, Stuart, it indeed is Marianneum. Interesting thread, y'all.
Hannah Geiger (X) Aug 10, 2013:
Time period I saw these links, but I was under a distinct impression that the text was much further down in history, these are really "recent". So only the asker could shed some light on this.
Hannah Geiger (X) Aug 10, 2013:
http://www.marianeum.cz/o-nas/

the Charitas link refers to this, actually
Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
Marianneum No doubt inspired by the Marianneum in Vienna, which in the past has been a Kinderasyl, Mutter-Kind-Heim and ***Seniorenheim*** http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianneum
Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
Oh, looks like it’s Vinohrady's Marianeum from the first half of the 20th century – http://www.charita.cz/res/data/015/001701.pdf Come on, Babs, bit of context was all we wanted :-) Perhaps it could even be translated as “lodging house” if they pay a token rent.
Hannah Geiger (X) Aug 10, 2013:
retirement I was thinking along the same lines here, Stuart.
As to housemaids, I see your point, although it would generally be well understood on both sides of the pond, at least today.
http://www.housemaid-911.co.uk/
Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
retirement This term may be anachronistic here (depending on the period to which the text pertains). I always thought that domestics never retired (in the modern sense), but apparently retirement was introduced in 1889 by Otto von Bismark. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement and http://www.medrounds.org/encyclopedia-of-aging/2006/01/retir...
Maria Chmelarova Aug 10, 2013:
babylondon to je nejaké špeciálne zariadenie len pre zostárnuté slúžky, ako napr. pre vyslúžilých vojakov ..._
Stuart Hoskins Aug 10, 2013:
context was this a facility for permanent residents (like a retirement home), or a place providing some sort of temporary relief?

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home for aged female servants

“English and American A Kallenberg has donated 000 crowns for the erection of a home for aged servants”
Bode Bugle Friday, March 10, 1911
http://newspaperarchive.com/bode-bugle/1911-03-10

“There are everywhere homes for aged servants… The home for aged servants in Dresden is under the immediate patronage of the Queen. In 1892, when visited, it had accommodations for fifteen women who must be at least sixty-two years old and give proof of having been a servant before being admitted.”
http://brittlebooks.library.illinois.edu/brittlebooks_open/B...

You could use “domestic staff” or “domestic workers” instead of “servant”.
I would avoid “housemaid” – this is just one type of maid (see “Types of maid” - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid). Furthermore, the housekeeper would be a služka, but she is higher than a maid in the hierarchy of domestic workers.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much. Reasons for my choice: not "retirement", not "shelter". Thanks."
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shelter for elderly (aged) housemaids

Of course one does not imagine that these people could have saved much money, so I would rather not call it a 'home' or 'residence', although, depending on your text, that might also be possible
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Home for retired housemaids

How about this way?
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retirement home for ( housemaids )

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