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M4 excluding intermediate other financial corporations
Jan 29, 2014 08:40
10 yrs ago
English term

Presidents'

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Shoud Chairman, Presidents' Meeting of the Association for Farmland Consolidation in xx Area
be changed to
Chairman, Meeting of the Chapter Presidents of the Association for Farmland Consolidation in Nakada Area?

Some one said "Presidents' Meeting" is weired."

Is that so?
Responses
5 Both ways..Depends
4 +3 meeting of presidents
4 rephrase
References
Presidents' Meeting (a few examples)
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Non-PRO (2): Tony M, Cilian O'Tuama

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Discussion

Tina Vonhof (X) Jan 29, 2014:
OK as is. In my opinion, the sentence is ok as is. If there are more presidents (and it looks like it, otherwise there would be no need for a Chairman), then the apostrophe comes after the s. I wouldn't introduce the word Chapter, which is not in the source sentence.
Jean-Claude Gouin Jan 29, 2014:
@ yoshimi Details are important ...
1. ShouLd ...
2. 'weird' and not 'weired' ...
3. Is it ''President's'' or ''Presidents''?
4. 'in Nakada Area' should be 'in 'THE Nakada Area' ...
Remember ... We are here to help you ... Have a nice day ...
Tony M Jan 29, 2014:
In moderation! Nakada-Area is OK (though not strictly necessary); however, 'Farmland-Consolidation-Association' would not be right (nor necessary). I think the most helpful hyphen here is indeed Chapter-Presidents; but you have omitted the apostrophe on Presidents', which seems to be the key thrust of Asker's question. Assuming it is intended to be a meeting of just Presidents (and as Writeaway has pointed out, that assumption may be wrong), I think the apostrophe is required, or else, my preference would be to start it with 'Meeting of...'.

Whether any of etc. may be required instead of the comma after Chairman rather depends on the wider context in which this appears.
Václav Pinkava Jan 29, 2014:
Hyphens have their uses Avoiding "of":
Chairman, Nakada-Area Farmland-Consolidation-Association Chapter-Presidents Meeting

Responses

4 mins
Selected

Both ways..Depends

Since the complete sentence has not been provided..here's what I figured. If the "President" means a single person, then it should be "President's". If it more than 1 person then it should be "Presidents'
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : I think Asker's real concern is whether or not the possessive apostrophe form is appropriate here.
10 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much. I think any language is difficult."
+3
13 mins

meeting of presidents

I agree with the person who said it's weird — or at least, it sounds awkward and unnatural!

There are several reasons for this, none of which could be regarded as a 'grammar rule' — it's just a case of euphony and, well, native-speaker 'feel'.

First, it starts off a bit awkwardly by saying "Chairman Presidents" — that's the way it would read if you imagine saying it in your head.

Then, it isn't really a meeting BELONGING TO the Presidents — it's a meeting OF them, but not really in a truly possessive sense.

Depending on how it actually fits into your text / sentence, I'd be inclined to write it as:

Chairman (of the) Meeting of Chapter Presidents of the Association for Farmland Consolidation in the Nakada Area

or even:

Chairman (of the) Meeting of the Association for Nakada Area Farmland Consolidation Chapter Presidents

I would include the first 'of the' unless this is in some kind of list (like a CV), or if it is, for example, the sign-off for a letter or article.
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : I'd assume it's just the name of the meeting and not only presidents are attending. Or is it a meeting for presidents only?
1 hr
Well, given the way Asker has re-worded it, I'd assumed it was the latter; but context as ever would be very useful ;-)
agree Martin Riordan : Great explanation! HNY
1 hr
Thanks, Martin! And to you!
agree Charles Davis : Must be a meeting of presidents, surely (which doesn't mean that others won't be present). I agree with all you say.
3 hrs
Thanks, Charles!
agree B D Finch
7 hrs
Thanks, B! :-)
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3 hrs

rephrase

The apostrophe is correct as used, but the key issue is reformulation. An abbreviation would come in handy.
How about:
Chairman, NAFCA Chapter-Presidents' Meeting (Nakada Area Farmland Consolidation Association)
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Reference comments

1 hr
Reference:

Presidents' Meeting (a few examples)

www.bpwuk.org/index.php/events/45-brussels-2013‎
BPW UK Business & Professional Women UK. Skip to content; Jump to main ... You are here: Home · Events BPW Europe Presidents' Meeting & Networking ..

[LAB PRESIDENTS' MEETING: - Antiquarian Booksellers Association
https://www.aba.org.uk/.../376 - ...‎
Antiquarian Booksellers A...
Nov 15, 2013 - (where the presidents' meeting was to take place the ..... term for the benefit of the British book trade as ... UK is currently involved in a working.

2009 QMUL Law Department Hosts UKLSA Presidents' Meeting
www.law.qmul.ac.uk › events‎
Queen Mary, University of...
Feb 21, 2009 - 2009 QMUL Law Department Hosts UKLSA Presidents' Meeting ... around the UK discussing how to better collaborate with each other, through ..

EDA PRESIDENTS' MEETING & EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL ...
www.eda-info.eu/en/component/docman/doc.../6-april-2007.htm...‎
Mar 11, 2007 - One of the topics discussed at the Presidents' meeting was the ... Joint Editors: Jennifer & Robin Salter: [email protected] eda NEWS may be .
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