Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

The late

English answer:

deceased

Added to glossary by Charles Davis
Jan 13, 2015 06:29
9 yrs ago
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English term

The late

Non-PRO English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
The late Zig Ziglar was one of the most respected modern day experts on success.


Explanation:
I think Zig Ziglar is an author name. What does "the late" mean?
Change log

Jan 13, 2015 08:18: danya changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Jan 22, 2015 07:39: Charles Davis Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Charles Davis, Lara Barnett, danya

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Discussion

acetran Jan 14, 2015:
@ allegrotrans I am not contesting the other answer, in fact I always wait for Charles to give the best answer. I am merely showing my displeasure to the comments of Finch and You. This has nothing to do with the other answer, just with your (and Finch's) comments to my answer. "AllegroTrans: Not really how it is expressed"
acetran Jan 14, 2015:
@ allegrotrans Unwanted taunts, and fault-finding -- which are totally unnecessary. You say, "Not really how it is expressed."

You are not walking the talk. You are making the same error which you are pointing finger at.

Finch says a confidence level of 5 makes one look silly. She herself give 5 for her answer, and that answer is not accepted.
AllegroTrans Jan 13, 2015:
So If someone wants to "risk looking silly" what has that got to with an answer that is clearly right (14 "agrees" so far) as opposed to one that is not expressed in correct English? What is your point here Acetran?
acetran Jan 13, 2015:
@ Rachel See Finch's remark on this page: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/finance_general/5503075-wi...

It says: "B D Finch: A confidence level of 5 risks making one look silly, particularly when answering a question in a specialised linguistic field."


And see this page where Finch gives a 5 for her not selected answer: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/business_commerce_general/...
Rachel Fell Jan 13, 2015:
acetran: we'd normally say "no longer alive" or possibly "alive no more"; "more alive" sounds like a comparative phrase
acetran Jan 13, 2015:
Please help me with the meaning of this line. B D Finch: "No more alive" than what?

Responses

+16
1 min
Selected

deceased

You put this before the name when the person has died.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-01-13 11:42:05 GMT)
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It doesn't necessarily mean that the person has only just died, but it is usually applied to someone who died fairly recently, within living memory. To say "the late Queen Victoria" nowadays would sound a bit ridiculous, as if we had been alive in the nineteenth century, but you might well refer to "the late Margaret Thatcher", for example.
Peer comment(s):

agree Muhammad Said
1 min
Thanks, Muhammad :)
agree JaneD
7 mins
Thanks, Jane!
agree Lara Barnett
10 mins
Thanks, Lara!
agree Jean-Claude Gouin : OR the late Zig Ziglar ...
14 mins
Thanks, 1045!
agree writeaway : oeuf corse
24 mins
Thanks, writeaway. What have Corsican eggs got to do with it? :)
agree Sabrina Bruna
46 mins
Thanks, Sabrina :)
agree Arabic & More
1 hr
Thanks, Amel :)
agree Thayenga : Yes, long gone from this world. Have a great day, Charles, and a belated Happy New Year. :)
1 hr
Thanks very much, Thayenga :) Same to you!
agree Carol Gullidge : agree, heaven knows! There is also of course the delightfully quaint usage by Alexander McCall-Smith in his "No. 1 Ladies Detective" novels, … "I'm sorry to hear your husband is late." I guess this must be Botswana usage; it's certainly not standard!
1 hr
Thanks, Carol :) (You see, I do vote non-Pro sometimes, though what it means in EN>EN questions is anyone's guess!)
agree Tony M
2 hrs
Thanks, Tony!
agree B D Finch : It's a late parrot.
2 hrs
Yes! And so it will for ever be. Thanks, B D :)
agree Jack Doughty
3 hrs
Thanks, Jack!
agree George Rabel : R.I.P.
7 hrs
Right! Thanks, George :)
agree AllegroTrans : Non-pro answer from a real pro....
8 hrs
Many thanks, Chris :)
agree Tamas Elek
1 day 12 hrs
Thanks, Tamas!
agree Phong Le
8 days
Thanks, Phong Le :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
1 min

no more alive/dead

Not living any more
Peer comment(s):

agree Muhammad Said
1 min
:)
neutral B D Finch : "No more alive" than what?
2 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : Not really how it is expressed
8 hrs
"Not really how it is expressed" -- Is this expressed correctly?
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