Oct 7, 2015 18:35
8 yrs ago
French term

s\'agripper à la vie

French to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
How would you translate this? Does it have a positive or negative connotation. Said by a person who's very active.

Je m'agrippe à la vie.
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Discussion

Charles Davis Oct 8, 2015:
Context Such speculations aside, we obviously do need more information in order to judge how to render it in English.
Charles Davis Oct 8, 2015:
Ironic? I take your point, Nikki; it nearly always implies "hanging in there", clinging to life in adversity, though the example I quoted of an octogenarian who "s'agrippe à la vie comme un jeune homme" suggests it's not invariably so. As for positive/negative, well, clinging to life is more positive than giving in to death, I suppose, but I presume the asker regards this as negative.

But another possibility that's suddenly occurred to me is that this very active person, to whom (barring special circumstances) this expression is inapplicable in its normal sense, might be saying it ironically: like saying "mustn't grumble" when you're actually on the crest of a wave, or "just about hanging on" when you swim a mile before breakfast, etc.
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Oct 8, 2015:
This expression is usually found in context where a person is fighting hard to hang on in there, struggling against serious illness or facing great adversity of some kind. A positive connotation is normally read into this. Is there some context of illness or difficulty in the background?

If there is no indication of some time of battle going on, then I would not expect this expression to be used. Indeed, "mordre la vie à pleins dents" would be a more likely choice. Coould you give more background please?

Proposed translations

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to hang on to life

my life

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It's not a negative expression. It means that the person in question is doing his/her utmost to get the most from life
Peer comment(s):

neutral Philippa Smith : Hanging on to life implies being ill or otherwise at risk of losing your life...
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French term (edited): s\\\'agripper à la vie

grab life with both hands

For a very active person, who has no reason to think that life may be slipping away, I think this would be the implication. It's a relatively unusual use of the expression, I would say; it more often expresses some precariousness and would suggest "clinging onto life", said of a very old or seriously ill person, for example. But it can also, less often, express living life to the full. That's true of these examples, certainly the first one:

"Ila presque quatre-vingts ans, mais il s'agrippe à la vie comme un jeune homme."
https://books.google.es/books?id=8VlGTSVBfy4C&pg=PT89&lpg=PT...

"Elle a toujours rêvé qu'un homme la prenne comme on s'agrippe à la vie. Il lui tient fort les bras."
http://clubdesrats.forumr.net/t4199-amanda-sthers-france

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In other words, in terms of your question, it's normally negative, but can sometimes be used in a positive sense. The usual "negative" meaning doesn't make sense in the context you're proposing, so in this particular case the implications must be positive.

I suggested "grab" in order to keep the same physical image, but something like "living life to the full" would convey the same sort of idea.

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"Hang on" and "cling on" are inevitably negative; both imply that life is in danger of being lost. They don't fit this context.
Peer comment(s):

agree mchd
9 hrs
Merci !
agree Philippa Smith : Nice tone!
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Thanks, Philippa!
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : I'd like to see more context, as you point out, this is generally reserved where there is some struggly in the background. Here I'd expect "mordre la vie à plein dents", for example.
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So would I (like to see more context), and I agree it's not an expression you'd usually see in the context proposed (a very active person, presumably not diagnosed with a terminal illness), but from what we've been told I think it must mean this.
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to cling on to life

I ´d suggest

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active People when confronted with severe health Problems do not give up easily, they will struggle hard to overcome their Problems because they love life or their way of living. The same applies to the positive thinking group of the elderly who are satisfied with their life and thus ready to fight premature hardships or illness.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Francois Boye : seems to me negative
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live [one's] life with a passion

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https://joydiscoverinvention.wordpress.com/.../on-spontaneit... Jul 2012 - I'm game for new discoveries. I keep an open mind to new possibilities. I live my life with a passion for new foods and flavours.

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www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/mickjagger/primitivecool.htmlDid you live life with a passion? I said oh yeah. Does it all have some strange meaning? Can it change my life today? Or is it all so much flotsam and jetsam?
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live (my) life to the full

throw oneself into life
Peer comment(s):

agree Carol Gullidge : sounds natural to me!
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