Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

1ère attribution de prix a été garantie

English translation:

1st round of prize awards has been guaranteed

Added to glossary by Dr. Mara Huber
May 5, 2016 10:09
8 yrs ago
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French term

1ère attribution de prix a été garantie

French to English Marketing General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters business
"Je vous ai transmis pour information le procès-verbal des résultats de la procédure de tirage au sort et je suis sûr que vous avez déjà pu vérifier que c’est à vous que la "1ère attribution de prix a été garantie", m./mme xxx."

Comes up in a company sweepstakes blurb sent to customers taking part in the lottery. Doesn't quite make sense in the context of the rest of the text. At the outset, the winning numbers are 'extracted' from lists and randomly assigned to participants, along with the non-winning numbers.
Does this sentence make sense as it stands? (it is I believe a translation from the Italian)
TIA for your help.
Change log

May 5, 2016 10:45: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "business"

Jun 24, 2016 06:45: Dr. Mara Huber Created KOG entry

Discussion

Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 8, 2016:
@Nikki Thanks, since have since received the original Italien, which I am told is more a less a word-for-word rendition:
"E’ A LEI CHE E’ STATA GARANTITA LA 1A ATTRIBUZIONE DI PREMIO"
Nikki Scott-Despaigne May 7, 2016:
Thank you Johnathan and Didier,
I too noted the phrasing "1ère attribution de prix" and not "attirubtion du 1er prix". Unless there is an error in the original, then this is carefully phrased and meant to give the impression that what you are hearing is something which means :

"you have been awarded first prize"

when in fact what is being said is :

"you are among those to receive one of the first prizes to be awarded".

Nothing more, nothing less.
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 5, 2016:
In the spirit of full disclosure... there is an real first prize of €50,000, the question is how misleading one can be, without entering the realm of fraudulent assertions.
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 5, 2016:
?? "...among those guaranteed to take part in the 1st prize allocation".
It is also possible that the original Italian was so convoluted that it was nearly impossible to interpret the deep structure without more information about the inner workings of the contest.
Didier Fourcot May 5, 2016:
cleverly misleading "la première attribution de prix" will be understood by the quick reader "l'attribution du premier prix", what Bernard Werber calls "ce que vous avez envie d'entendre/ce que vous croyez entendre":
http://www.bernardwerber.com/unpeuplus/ESRA/tentative.html

So you need to be just as clever in English and find a wording that is both true (you are in the first drawing and you won... something) and what the reader would like to hear "... the first prize"

There are newspapers specializing in these titles in France, for example "Hollande laisse tomber", and the full report details that a spoon has fallen from his hand: everything is true, but the reader gets fooled
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 5, 2016:
To clarify The 1st prize is not being awarded here, rather customers are asked to submit a coupon, which in turn makes them eligible to win said prize.
Participants receiving this notice are guaranteed to receive a prize, but not the 1st prize, the text is seemingly purposely vague...
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 5, 2016:
Thanks Tony I'll leave Brad to you, personally I'd opt for Ava Gardner in her heyday...
There are not two rounds as such, which is why I'm a bit confused. I think the idea is simply that "your prize is guaranteed", even if that prize is a 2-€ coupon to purchase some goo with.
The way it works is, a few weeks after the customer agrees to take part in the sweepstakes, a second letter is sent stating e.g. "you're already a winner", but of course they must submit an order to claim the prize,.
Tony M May 5, 2016:
Usual scam! Yes, it does make sense, if you allow for the fact it is translated from IT.

It's the usual blurb: "Notification: you have won a prize!" — then it goes on in the small print to say that your name is in the draw to possibly win "the holiday of a lifetime with the person of your choice [I'll choose Brad Pitt, thanks!]", but in the meantime you can have 5p off a bag of cat litter...

So you have been awarded a prize in the first round of the draw...
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) May 5, 2016:
PS In these sweepstakes everyone wins a "prize", 99.9% of which is a rebate voucher for buying the company's products.

Proposed translations

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1st round of prize awards has been guaranteed

A sweepstakes ... poor Jon. I spent about a decade doing those and learning that IT DOES NOT NEED TO MAKE SENSE. The important thing is to use certain trigger words, here in particular: guaranteed. Stir up a foam of promising verbiage; nobody will analyze it but it will create a feeling--the feeling that this is all legit. And as far as I know, this is direct mail that goes to all the addresses they got hold of, not just to participants who have already replied . . .
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
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the first prize award was for you/you won the first prize award

as simple as possible
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : But it doesn't mean you won the first prize!
11 mins
disagree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : I think you have fallen into the trap intended ; the original means that X is among the first to receive a prize.
2 days 16 mins
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your first prize is guaranteed

A way of misleading the quick reader while only actually promising a fairly worthless prize, along the lines suggested by Didier
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49 days

you have been awarded first prize

A suggestion. I do think the results have been sent to the winner, not a jury member
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : You too have "fallen into the intended trap" as Nikki points out; this person has NOT won first prize, as asker has confirmed — but the promoters want to make them FEEL like they have, hence the evasive wording.
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