Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
If Bid
French translation:
enchère [finale] inférieure au prix de réserve relatif
Added to glossary by
kerbager
Jan 11, 2017 13:18
7 yrs ago
English term
If Bid
English to French
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
When the bids do not reach the Seller’s Reserve Price, the Auctioneer may conditionally sell the Vehicle subject to an If Bid (also called phone bid or confirmation sale).
Proposed translations
(French)
4 | enchère [finale] inférieure au prix de réserve relatif | Daryo |
4 -1 | offre conditionnelle | Nathalie Stewart |
4 -1 | sous réserve d'offres acceptables pendant une période déterminée | Francois Boye |
References
meaning of If Bid | Tatiana Ramputh |
Proposed translations
9 hrs
English term (edited):
"If Bid"
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enchère [finale] inférieure au prix de réserve relatif
there might be some shorter usual version, but I couldn't find it.
"If Bid" = a bid (=>une enchère) that is under the reserve price and might be accepted IF the seller changes its mind about the reserve price;
If Bid Process. From the opening of a given Sale until up to three hours after the close of such Sale (the “Resolve Time”), a Seller may either:
i. Lower the hidden Reserve for the Vehicle. If the hidden Reserve price is lowered to a price that is equal to or less than the amount set by any Dealer as its Maximum Bid Amount (defined below) for that Vehicle, then the Seller will sell and such bidding Dealer will buy the Vehicle at such lowered Reserve price and such bidding dealer is the highest bidder at the end of the auction, if the auction has closed. If the auction has not closed, the competitive bidding will continue and the Vehicle will be sold to the highest bidding dealer at the end of the auction.
ii. Submit, or direct Auction Company in writing (including by e-mail) to communicate on Seller’s behalf a counteroffer (the “Seller’s Counteroffer Price”) to the bidder with the highest bid showing for the Vehicle. Buyer may accept the Seller’s Counteroffer Price (through the Auction Company’s auction system or e-mail). Buyer and Seller agree that they will be bound by all acceptances communicated to the Auction during the Resolve Time. All unaccepted offers are deemed rescinded at the close of the Resolve Time. Buyer and Seller assume all risk of loss for any transaction not completed because of any failure in communication of offers and acceptance within the Resolve Time, regardless of cause.
https://buy.adesa.ca/pdfs/terms_of_use_agreement.pdf
Prix de réserve
Le prix de réserve est une notion classique des ventes aux enchères. C’est un prix secret, fixé préalablement par le vendeur, en dessous duquel le bien ne sera pas vendu. Le prix de réserve permet au vendeur de se prémunir du risque que les enchères ne décollent pas et d’être, par conséquent, obligé de vendre son bien à vil prix.
Le prix de réserve peut être ferme ou relatif. Il est ferme lorsque la vente est directement annulée si le prix d’adjudication finale est inférieur au prix de réserve. Il est relatif lorsque les conditions générales de vente prévoient que le vendeur a la possibilité d’accepter la meilleure enchère finale même si celle-ci est inférieure au prix de réserve.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prix_de_réserve
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When the bids do not reach the Seller’s Reserve Price, the Auctioneer may conditionally sell the Vehicle subject to an If Bid (also called phone bid or confirmation sale)
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strictly speaking this "conditional sale" is NOT a sale of any kind - it's just a delayed decision as to whether or not the Seller will accept a price lower than the reserve price, or possible make a counteroffer.
"If Bid" = a bid (=>une enchère) that is under the reserve price and might be accepted IF the seller changes its mind about the reserve price;
If Bid Process. From the opening of a given Sale until up to three hours after the close of such Sale (the “Resolve Time”), a Seller may either:
i. Lower the hidden Reserve for the Vehicle. If the hidden Reserve price is lowered to a price that is equal to or less than the amount set by any Dealer as its Maximum Bid Amount (defined below) for that Vehicle, then the Seller will sell and such bidding Dealer will buy the Vehicle at such lowered Reserve price and such bidding dealer is the highest bidder at the end of the auction, if the auction has closed. If the auction has not closed, the competitive bidding will continue and the Vehicle will be sold to the highest bidding dealer at the end of the auction.
ii. Submit, or direct Auction Company in writing (including by e-mail) to communicate on Seller’s behalf a counteroffer (the “Seller’s Counteroffer Price”) to the bidder with the highest bid showing for the Vehicle. Buyer may accept the Seller’s Counteroffer Price (through the Auction Company’s auction system or e-mail). Buyer and Seller agree that they will be bound by all acceptances communicated to the Auction during the Resolve Time. All unaccepted offers are deemed rescinded at the close of the Resolve Time. Buyer and Seller assume all risk of loss for any transaction not completed because of any failure in communication of offers and acceptance within the Resolve Time, regardless of cause.
https://buy.adesa.ca/pdfs/terms_of_use_agreement.pdf
Prix de réserve
Le prix de réserve est une notion classique des ventes aux enchères. C’est un prix secret, fixé préalablement par le vendeur, en dessous duquel le bien ne sera pas vendu. Le prix de réserve permet au vendeur de se prémunir du risque que les enchères ne décollent pas et d’être, par conséquent, obligé de vendre son bien à vil prix.
Le prix de réserve peut être ferme ou relatif. Il est ferme lorsque la vente est directement annulée si le prix d’adjudication finale est inférieur au prix de réserve. Il est relatif lorsque les conditions générales de vente prévoient que le vendeur a la possibilité d’accepter la meilleure enchère finale même si celle-ci est inférieure au prix de réserve.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prix_de_réserve
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Note added at 9 hrs (2017-01-11 22:46:28 GMT)
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When the bids do not reach the Seller’s Reserve Price, the Auctioneer may conditionally sell the Vehicle subject to an If Bid (also called phone bid or confirmation sale)
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strictly speaking this "conditional sale" is NOT a sale of any kind - it's just a delayed decision as to whether or not the Seller will accept a price lower than the reserve price, or possible make a counteroffer.
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Comment: "merci"
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25 mins
English term (edited):
"If" bid
offre conditionnelle
http://images.adesa.com/eng/GMAC_HomePage/10-08_Oct_SA_Speci...
Toutes les offres seront placées dans un état d'offre conditionnelle ("If bid"). Une fois que le prix réservé aura été atteint, le véhicule sera considéré comme vendu.
Toutes les offres seront placées dans un état d'offre conditionnelle ("If bid"). Une fois que le prix réservé aura été atteint, le véhicule sera considéré comme vendu.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Francois Boye
: Comment traduisez-vous 'the Auctioneer may conditionally sell the Vehicle subject to an If Bid' ? ;
20 mins
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Le commissaire-priseur peut vendre le véhicule à titre d'offre conditionnelle ("If" Bid), sous réserve de confirmation. (par exemple)
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disagree |
Daryo
: what is "conditional" is the acceptance of the offer by the Seller - the Bid by the potential buyer is NOT conditional! BTW in a auction it's "une enchère" and it's always bidding on the bidder - you CAN'T make "conditional bids/offers"
8 hrs
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57 mins
sous réserve d'offres acceptables pendant une période déterminée
“If” bids (...) state that a bidder agrees to buy a vehicle “if” the seller will accept the offer within a specified period of time.
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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2017-01-12 17:28:48 GMT)
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Offres acceptables = offres acceptables aux yeux du vendeur. This does not imply that the reserve bid is fixed.
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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2017-01-12 17:28:48 GMT)
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Offres acceptables = offres acceptables aux yeux du vendeur. This does not imply that the reserve bid is fixed.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Daryo
: that would apply to a "reserve price" that doesn't have any flexibility, not to an "If Bid"
8 hrs
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see above
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Reference comments
11 mins
Reference:
meaning of If Bid
“If” Bids
“If” bids are usually facilitated by the auction company and state that a bidder agrees to buy a vehicle “if” the seller will accept the offer within a specified period of time. “If” bids are usually made on vehicles that did not meet sellers’ price expectations. On sale days, the auction has a department dedicated to facilitating “if” sales.
“If” bids are usually facilitated by the auction company and state that a bidder agrees to buy a vehicle “if” the seller will accept the offer within a specified period of time. “If” bids are usually made on vehicles that did not meet sellers’ price expectations. On sale days, the auction has a department dedicated to facilitating “if” sales.
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