Feb 1, 2017 11:05
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German term
um mindestens eine 10er Potenz abtötet
German to English
Medical
Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)
Im Kontext geht es um Produktionsbetriebe für verzehrfertige Lebensmittel. Das Unternehmen hat umfangreiche Maßnahmen, die die Keimfreiheit etc. gewährleisten sollen.
In einem Absatz geht es um Erhitzung und ähnliches, welches die Keimzahl "um mindestens eine 10er Potenz abtötet".
Die Übersetzung 10er Potenz finde ich nirgends, leider.
Es gab schon mal eine ähnliche KudoZ-Frage, ich weiß aber nicht ob und wie "orders of magnitude" sich einbauen/verwenden lässt.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_german/mathematics_stat...
Hilfe wäre deshalb nett.
In einem Absatz geht es um Erhitzung und ähnliches, welches die Keimzahl "um mindestens eine 10er Potenz abtötet".
Die Übersetzung 10er Potenz finde ich nirgends, leider.
Es gab schon mal eine ähnliche KudoZ-Frage, ich weiß aber nicht ob und wie "orders of magnitude" sich einbauen/verwenden lässt.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_german/mathematics_stat...
Hilfe wäre deshalb nett.
Proposed translations
(English)
Change log
Feb 1, 2017 11:08: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Science" to "Medical"
Proposed translations
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decreases (the total bioburden/bacterial load) by at least a factor of 10
Note from asker:
Thanks for the suggestion! |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
phillee
: Perhaps 'Reduces the bacteria count by at least a factor of 10" ... Geschmackssache
21 mins
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agree |
Anne Schulz
7 hrs
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Great!"
12 mins
which decimates
the bacteria count;
'decimate' literally means ' to decrease BY a tenth' but in the modern sense it means 'destroy en masse'; could work here:
decimate - definition of decimate in English | Oxford Dictionaries
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/decimate
Historically, the meaning of the word decimate is 'kill one in every ten of (a group of people)'. This sense has been more or less totally superseded by the later, more general sense 'kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of', as in the virus has decimated the population.
'decimate' literally means ' to decrease BY a tenth' but in the modern sense it means 'destroy en masse'; could work here:
decimate - definition of decimate in English | Oxford Dictionaries
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/decimate
Historically, the meaning of the word decimate is 'kill one in every ten of (a group of people)'. This sense has been more or less totally superseded by the later, more general sense 'kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of', as in the virus has decimated the population.
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survival ratio of 1:10
Thermal Processing - NZIFST
www.nzifst.org.nz › ... › Heat-Transfer Applications
Equivalent Killing Power at Other Temperatures Pasteurization. Thermal processing implies the controlled use of heat to increase, or reduce depending ... The object of sterilization is to destroy all microorganisms, that is, bacteria, yeasts ... times needed to reduce actual spore counts from 1012 (12 in uppercase!) to 1 (the lower, open, circles) ...
In this graph, these times are plotted against the different temperatures and it shows that when the logarithms of these times are plotted against temperatures, the resulting graph is a straight line. The mean times on this graph are called thermal death times for the corresponding temperatures. Note that these thermal death times do not represent complete sterilization, but a mathematical concept which can be considered as effective sterilization, which is in fact a survival ratio of 1:1012, and which has been found adequate for safety
http://www.nzifst.org.nz/unitoperations/httrapps2.htm
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[DOC]Thermal Destruction of Microorganisms
web.thu.edu.tw/.../4%20Thermal%20Destruction%20of...
Thus bacteria subjected to heat are killed at a rate that is proportional to the number ... as the temperature change required to change the D value by a factor of 10. ... Organisms that can survive pasteurization temperature belong to the groups of .... So, the z-value allows us to calculate a thermal process of equivalency, if we ...
Thermal death time - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_death_time
Thermal death time is a concept used to determine how long it takes to kill a specific bacteria at a specific temperature. ... This would be shown either as F10121 = 10 minutes (Celsius) or F18250 = 10 minutes (Fahrenheit).
A lethal ratio (L) is also a sterilizing effect at 1 minute at other temperatures with (T). L = 10 ( T − T R e f ) ..
Survival and Heat Resistance of Salmonella enterica and Escherichia ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3233057/ - Oldal lefordítása
Írta: Y He - 2011 - Idézetek száma: 29 - Kapcsolódó cikkek
The heat-treated samples were taken at 4 s, 10 min, 20 min, 30 min, and 1 h and ... Bacterial survival rates were calculated by enumerating viable cell counts on BHI and .... For instance, it required an average of 5.89 to 8.84 min to kill 90% of ....
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lethal ratio or survival ratio
www.nzifst.org.nz › ... › Heat-Transfer Applications
Equivalent Killing Power at Other Temperatures Pasteurization. Thermal processing implies the controlled use of heat to increase, or reduce depending ... The object of sterilization is to destroy all microorganisms, that is, bacteria, yeasts ... times needed to reduce actual spore counts from 1012 (12 in uppercase!) to 1 (the lower, open, circles) ...
In this graph, these times are plotted against the different temperatures and it shows that when the logarithms of these times are plotted against temperatures, the resulting graph is a straight line. The mean times on this graph are called thermal death times for the corresponding temperatures. Note that these thermal death times do not represent complete sterilization, but a mathematical concept which can be considered as effective sterilization, which is in fact a survival ratio of 1:1012, and which has been found adequate for safety
http://www.nzifst.org.nz/unitoperations/httrapps2.htm
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Note added at 13 mins (2017-02-01 11:18:07 GMT)
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[DOC]Thermal Destruction of Microorganisms
web.thu.edu.tw/.../4%20Thermal%20Destruction%20of...
Thus bacteria subjected to heat are killed at a rate that is proportional to the number ... as the temperature change required to change the D value by a factor of 10. ... Organisms that can survive pasteurization temperature belong to the groups of .... So, the z-value allows us to calculate a thermal process of equivalency, if we ...
Thermal death time - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_death_time
Thermal death time is a concept used to determine how long it takes to kill a specific bacteria at a specific temperature. ... This would be shown either as F10121 = 10 minutes (Celsius) or F18250 = 10 minutes (Fahrenheit).
A lethal ratio (L) is also a sterilizing effect at 1 minute at other temperatures with (T). L = 10 ( T − T R e f ) ..
Survival and Heat Resistance of Salmonella enterica and Escherichia ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3233057/ - Oldal lefordítása
Írta: Y He - 2011 - Idézetek száma: 29 - Kapcsolódó cikkek
The heat-treated samples were taken at 4 s, 10 min, 20 min, 30 min, and 1 h and ... Bacterial survival rates were calculated by enumerating viable cell counts on BHI and .... For instance, it required an average of 5.89 to 8.84 min to kill 90% of ....
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lethal ratio or survival ratio
Note from asker:
Thanks for the suggestion! |
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16 mins
power of ten / order of magnitude
lower the germ count by at least one power of ten
reduce the bacterial count by at least one order of magnitude
The Keimzahl is not 'abgetötet' but 'reduziert'
reduce the bacterial count by at least one order of magnitude
The Keimzahl is not 'abgetötet' but 'reduziert'
Note from asker:
Thank you for your support. I am now facing the problem that I can't split the points. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Andrew Bramhall
: I agree the germ count isn't eradicated entirely, merely reduced (considerably)
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germs can be eradicated, a count cannot
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agree |
BrigitteHilgner
: Alles schon mal dagewesen: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/tech_engineering...
1 hr
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agree |
Anne Schulz
7 hrs
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7 hrs
which at a minimum kills at a tenfold rate
That's my modest attempt.
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which kills germs (bacteria) at a minimum at a tenfold rate
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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2017-02-03 00:08:00 GMT)
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which kills germs (bacteria) at a minimum at a tenfold rate
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Cilian O'Tuama
: ten times higher than what? // still makes no mathematical/scientific/whatever sense
1 day 5 hrs
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kills germs (bacteria) at a tenfold rate
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Discussion
Thanks to all - it was a very interesting discussion.
I am not completely sure how the further proceeding is: I don't want to choose the prefered solution myself, just leave it open. After some days the community-vote will step up. Then the system or I (?) will choose the solution with the highest number of "agree" votes.
I was trying to point out the problems which arise if e.g. "mehr als eine" is actually "zwei" 10er Potenzen - how do you hope to render that? Two factors of 10? A factor of 2x10? Of course a factor of 10^2 would be the correct one. But I see I'm making this too complicated. Sorry for the confusion, Folks.
1,000,000 - 100,000 = 900,000 dead bacteria i.e. 90% killed off
bacterial count reduced by a factor of ten