Feb 14, 2017 18:15
7 yrs ago
French term

Si l'on fait abstraction des données

French to English Art/Literary Archaeology ancient art
DOC: 1907 Museum catalog of ancient mirrors - Introduction, section about dating the mirrors.
CONTEXT: ÂGE DES MIROIRS. - Peut-on fixer l'âge des miroirs? ***Si l'on fait abstraction des données*** fournies par la provenance, il faut reconnaître que les miroirs ne comptent pas parmi les antiquités d'un classement facile et que l'on peut dater à première vue. Les caractères plus ou moins permanents qui sont de véritables indices d'époque manquent à un trop grand nombre d'exemplaires et même de types, pour légitimer dans un catalogue un autre classement que le classement par forme et par matière, quitte à le compléter par un exposé chronologique. C'est ce que nous allons faire ici.
ATTEMPT: ***Apart from/Leaving aside the information*** provided by the provenance, it must be recognized that mirrors are not [-counted] among the antiquities which can be classified easily and which can be dated at a glance.
QUERY: Is there a better way of saying this since it's rather clumsy? I'm trying to avoid the literal "If we disregard the data furnished by the provenance, it is necessary to recognize that...."
Thank you in advance for any suggestions!
Proposed translations (English)
3 If one leaves aside the information
Change log

Feb 14, 2017 18:15: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"

Feb 14, 2017 23:19: Karen Zaragoza changed "Vetting" from "Needs Vetting" to "Vet OK"

Feb 16, 2017 00:26: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "Si l\\\'on fait abstraction des données" to "Si l\'on fait abstraction des données "

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (2): Nikki Scott-Despaigne, Jennifer Levey

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Discussion

ormiston Feb 15, 2017:
less clumsy thus? Discounting any clues provided by their origin, antique mirrors are admittedly difficult to classify or date at a glance.

Proposed translations

7 hrs
French term (edited): Si l\'on fait abstraction des données
Selected

If one leaves aside the information

provided by...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Or, more simply put, "setting aside the information as to its origins,..."; or "if we ignore the information about..."
8 hrs
Yes. Tku. :-)
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