May 16, 2017 01:11
6 yrs ago
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English term
refer to
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For further information on the shops please refer to the Web:
*Franchise shops
1 shop in Gunma Prefecture
13 shops in Ibaraki Prefecture
Is "refer to" in the 1st line OK? How about "see"?
I would like to know the difference between them.
Thank you for your advice.
*Franchise shops
1 shop in Gunma Prefecture
13 shops in Ibaraki Prefecture
Is "refer to" in the 1st line OK? How about "see"?
I would like to know the difference between them.
Thank you for your advice.
Responses
4 +5 | please see our website | Tony M |
5 +5 | see/refer to | David Hollywood |
Responses
+5
4 hrs
Selected
please see our website
Generally, we wouldn't say 'the Web' like that — it would more usually be 'the Internet', or else we would talke about a 'website'.
Saying "refer to the Web" is a bit like saying "refer to the Library" — and you simply wouldn't say that in natural EN: you would go to the Library and refer to some specific information in it (e.g. perhaps a book or directory).
I would only say 'refer to' if I was going on to say to WHAT one should refer: page 6 / a particular book, etc. But in any case, it is pretty unusual to see 'refer to' used in reference to all things Internet — though once on a website, one might find an insturction to 'refer to the 'Contacts' page for our address'
It is not in fact totally clear what you are really trying to say: do you actually mean 'please see our [specific] website'? Or do you mean 'go and look it up [soemwhere] on the Internet'?
Generally, I wouldn't use 'the web' in this way, since that strictly speaking refers to the technical infrastructure on which the Internet resides.
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Note added at 4 heures (2017-05-16 05:57:13 GMT)
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All credit, of course, to Port City, who was the first to suggest this in their peer comment.
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Note added at 5 heures (2017-05-16 06:27:36 GMT)
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Asker:
You can always use the 'discussion' area to add further information or a correction to your question.
If you were trying to say "please refer to the web [+ url]", then I'm afraid that wouldn't be at all natural in EN; to start with, we would call it either a 'website' or just a 'site', but NEVER 'the web'; but if you are giving the actual URL, then you don't really need to say anything at all: "please refer to www.mysite.com" — but I still maintain that 'see' or 'visit' is more idiomatic in the friendly and informal world of the Internet; using an unusually formal term might stand out with an unwarranted contrast compared to the style of the rest of your text.
Saying "refer to the Web" is a bit like saying "refer to the Library" — and you simply wouldn't say that in natural EN: you would go to the Library and refer to some specific information in it (e.g. perhaps a book or directory).
I would only say 'refer to' if I was going on to say to WHAT one should refer: page 6 / a particular book, etc. But in any case, it is pretty unusual to see 'refer to' used in reference to all things Internet — though once on a website, one might find an insturction to 'refer to the 'Contacts' page for our address'
It is not in fact totally clear what you are really trying to say: do you actually mean 'please see our [specific] website'? Or do you mean 'go and look it up [soemwhere] on the Internet'?
Generally, I wouldn't use 'the web' in this way, since that strictly speaking refers to the technical infrastructure on which the Internet resides.
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Note added at 4 heures (2017-05-16 05:57:13 GMT)
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All credit, of course, to Port City, who was the first to suggest this in their peer comment.
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Note added at 5 heures (2017-05-16 06:27:36 GMT)
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Asker:
You can always use the 'discussion' area to add further information or a correction to your question.
If you were trying to say "please refer to the web [+ url]", then I'm afraid that wouldn't be at all natural in EN; to start with, we would call it either a 'website' or just a 'site', but NEVER 'the web'; but if you are giving the actual URL, then you don't really need to say anything at all: "please refer to www.mysite.com" — but I still maintain that 'see' or 'visit' is more idiomatic in the friendly and informal world of the Internet; using an unusually formal term might stand out with an unwarranted contrast compared to the style of the rest of your text.
Note from asker:
Web is my mistake. 🙇 Web (website) is follwed by its URL. I tried to correct, but it is too late. Thank you. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Terry Richards
23 mins
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Thanks, Terry!
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agree |
writeaway
: see, go to, visit etc. refer to? don't think so /not in this marketing context. Björn's examples show a more formal context where people are asked to look at info for reference.
2 hrs
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Thanks, W/A! Well, can't say I've personally EVER seen it, and it just "sounds wrong" to me.
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agree |
B D Finch
4 hrs
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Thanks, B!
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agree |
Björn Vrooman
: Plenty(!) of UK examples: "Please refer to the NHS Choices website http://www.nhs.uk/[...].aspx for information on" http://content.digital.nhs - IMO, point is that it's a business and the websites are not treated as mere sources of info (cf "consult").
11 hrs
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Thanks, Björn!
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agree |
acetran
1 day 10 hrs
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Thanks, Ace!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much!"
+5
1 hr
see/refer to
no difference so take your pick
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Note added at 1 hr (2017-05-16 02:23:18 GMT)
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"refer to" is a little bit more formal but "see" is ok
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Note added at 1 hr (2017-05-16 02:23:18 GMT)
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"refer to" is a little bit more formal but "see" is ok
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Yasutomo Kanazawa
2 hrs
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thank you
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agree |
Port City
: You can also say "please visit our website".
2 hrs
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would work too
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neutral |
Tony M
: I think this is actually an oversimplification that will not really be helpful to Asker.
3 hrs
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hmm, not so sure
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agree |
Jack Doughty
3 hrs
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thanks Jack
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agree |
Sheila Wilson
: They're synonymous in this context. KudoZ wasn't designed to give free English lessons to those editing English, after all.
5 hrs
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thanks Sheila
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neutral |
writeaway
: refer to our website? 100% sure about that?
5 hrs
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would be ok and I don't see why not in this case
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agree |
acetran
1 day 13 hrs
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thanks acetran
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