Oct 15, 2017 14:26
6 yrs ago
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English term

strip away the ability

English Social Sciences Psychology
'Maybe it is the struggles that surround dating and relationships when it comes to people with autism spectrum disorders that propagate the myth that people on the spectrum are somehow loveless. Often it is believed that they lack the ability to be romantically involved with another person. To arrive at this, one strips away the entire ability to relate to another person on a romantic level, and this can almost be construed as offensive.' (Luke Jackson 'Sex, drugs and Asperger's Syndrome')

I understand that strip away means 'remove', also in this context. The whole structure is confusing to me - who is "one' (that one who strips away the entire ability) - I assume autistic people are stripped away this ability. I'll appreciate some help.

Discussion

Daryo Oct 18, 2017:
@ philgoddard just because other people don't follow your über-minimalist preferred style of writing doesn't mean that it's "badly written".

What next? Victor Hugo didn't know how to write?

http://www.gavroche.org/vhugo/sentence.shtml
Tina Vonhof (X) Oct 16, 2017:
@ Phil I assume this probably comes from a book or article. You're right of course about the wordiness but if you weed that out in a translation, then you're actually re-writing it and taking away the writer's style. You have to be careful with that. It would be ok in a different kind of document but maybe not in this case. I don't want to start a debate about this - maybe we have different a approach to translation.
philgoddard Oct 15, 2017:
It's extremely wordy and repetitive, which is possibly why the asker is having trouble understanding it. I wouldn't reproduce this in a translation.

"Many people on the autism spectrum struggle with dating and relationships. This has propagated the arguably offensive myth that they are somehow loveless, lacking the ability to be romantically involved with others."
Tina Vonhof (X) Oct 15, 2017:
I don't think the text is badly written, it just a bit wordy. Depending on what the translation will be used for, it should maybe follow that same style.
To answer the questions answer has, 'one' means 'anyone', people in general. 'One strips away' is not meant literally but it is part of people's wrong beliefs about an autistic person, that all autistic people are seen as unable to love. These beliefs are offensive because they put autistic people in a wrong light, they see them as somehow 'sub-human'.

philgoddard Oct 15, 2017:
If you're translating this, I would leave it out. It's just repeating the previous sentence. And the first sentence, with its repetition of "people" and "spectrum", is so badly written it's difficult to understand.

Responses

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deny that they have the ability

The person who believes that people on the autistic spectrum cannot form romantic attachments is denying that they have any ability to relate to another person on a romantic level.
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agree philgoddard
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subtract the capacity

"Strip away" means "peel away." I believe that he means "strip from," meaning "take away," but even this is awkward.

Basic meaning of sentence: This belief is a result of one (the person who believes that an autistic person does not have the ability to love in the romantic sense) subtracting from (their idea of) an autistic person all capacity to relate to another person on a romantic level.

ability vs. capacity: http://grammarist.com/usage/ability-capability-capacity/

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Note added at 5 hrs (2017-10-15 20:23:57 GMT)
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The second part of the sentence: and this borders on being offensive.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tina Vonhof (X) : I understand the original sentence better.
1 hr
agree Daryo
3 days 4 hrs
Thanks! BTW I think that the "entire" in the original sentence is significant.
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