Nov 9, 2017 01:26
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French term
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plomb à sceller
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Office security equipment
This is a modern product used for office/commercial security - I guess originally it was literally a lead seal, but I cannot find the term for the modern equivalent - I think made of metal or plastic.
Many thanks in advance
Many thanks in advance
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lead seal
Why not? It's only dangerous if consumed or heated sufficiently to release vapour. So long as lead seals aren't left where children can get at them, presumably nobody's going to suck them. Not "lead for sealing", because that implies application of heat.
www.universeal.co.uk/lead-seals
The Lead/Wire seal is a round lead seal product which is used in conjunction with any length of pre-cut or rolls of various wire types. Sealing pliers are required ...
www.acmeseals.com/acme-lead-seals.html
The Round Lead Seal is designed with two parallel holes and a knot chamber. The LS31F Seal Cross-hole Lead Seal is designed so that the lashed wire is ...
www.universeal.co.uk/lead-seals
The Lead/Wire seal is a round lead seal product which is used in conjunction with any length of pre-cut or rolls of various wire types. Sealing pliers are required ...
www.acmeseals.com/acme-lead-seals.html
The Round Lead Seal is designed with two parallel holes and a knot chamber. The LS31F Seal Cross-hole Lead Seal is designed so that the lashed wire is ...
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Tony M
: These days, most of them are NOT made of lead, and as Asker's context makes clear, they also come in other materials: so we'd have "lead seals made of plastic or lead"
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See my comments in the discussion section.
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Charles Davis
: I think this is right for the first instance, and for the second, where it says "Il existe différents types de plomb à sceller, en plastique ou en plomb...", it would be best to put "security seal"; I don't think plastic ones are called plastic lead seals
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Thanks Charles. Yes, it is confusing, but the word "plomb" is used in French to mean "seal", while the word "lead" is not used that way in English.
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Thanks Gilou
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Comment: "Thanks - (please see my last discussion entry)"
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seal
Though of course, without proper context, we can't tell exactly how it is being used.
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You see, Asker, that's exactly why proper context is essential right from the start!
However, I don't see any real problem with using 'seal' in both instances; in #1 you could go for something like "The best method of sealing... remains a physical seal."
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Then follow Charles's suggestion and refer to the generic object as a 'security seal'.
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Note added at 11 jours (2017-11-20 16:06:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Yes, so as Charles says, and I have agreed with, 'physical security seal' ought to cover the entire term when used on at least the first occasion, which can be variously shortened to suit the context when it recurs.
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Note added at 5 heures (2017-11-09 07:25:13 GMT)
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You see, Asker, that's exactly why proper context is essential right from the start!
However, I don't see any real problem with using 'seal' in both instances; in #1 you could go for something like "The best method of sealing... remains a physical seal."
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Note added at 20 heures (2017-11-09 21:37:13 GMT)
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Then follow Charles's suggestion and refer to the generic object as a 'security seal'.
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Note added at 11 jours (2017-11-20 16:06:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Yes, so as Charles says, and I have agreed with, 'physical security seal' ought to cover the entire term when used on at least the first occasion, which can be variously shortened to suit the context when it recurs.
Note from asker:
| Thank Tony. Id like to leave it at "seal" but I have "Le meilleur scellé pour de nombreuses applications de ce type reste le plomb à sceller" and "Il existe différents types de plomb à sceller, en plastique ou en plomb traditionnel selon les usages et les budgets". The best indication of exact use I have is "permettra la fermeture definitive de vos installations de tous types" |
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GILLES MEUNIER
: traduction de sceau mais plomb ?
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The whole use of 'plomb' in this context in FR is now archaic, and we simply don't call it that in EN; the context makes it clear that this 'seal' may be plastic, lead, etc., so the possibility of a lead one is covered, any other mention is thus redondant
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Discussion
I have decided to go with lead seals or "lead seals" and to discuss it with the client.
Given the reservations here, I'm not sure it should be a one to one glossary entry, but presumably a future term search will be able to see this discussion too.
So presumably the concept is "lead seal" while it has a modern sub category, something like: "Plastic lead seals" .....
The context is a product catalogue for all types of office type security. "Plombs à sceller" is a main heading. Under this heading comes such articles as "Pince à Plomber" "kit de plombage" "Pastille à sceller" "Scellé à plomb naturel"
A lot of mention of seals appears elsewhere such as letter seals, label seals CD seals.
Duncan
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"Il existe différents types de plomb à sceller, en plastique ou en plomb traditionnel selon les usages et les budgets".
The best indication of exact use I have is "permettra la fermeture definitive de vos installations de tous types"