Dec 18, 2017 23:46
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Spanish term
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M.S. Leg/Fin Translator - 12 yrs - MemoQ
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US, British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, French to English, and 2 more.
participar en negociaciones o empresas
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Law: Contract(s)
There seems to be missing verb between "negociaciones o" and "empresas" in this text:
" I) Emitir y negociar en general con toda la clase de títulos de crédito; J) Adquirir y disponer de acciones, valores y partes sociales de empresas (...), así como participar en negociaciones o empresas con fines similares o relacionados con los objetos arriba mencionados; y K) Llevar al cabo todos los actos y celebrar toda clase de contratos (...)"
Like in previous kudos post, this appears in an agreement to amend corporate bylaws for a Mexican corporation.
" I) Emitir y negociar en general con toda la clase de títulos de crédito; J) Adquirir y disponer de acciones, valores y partes sociales de empresas (...), así como participar en negociaciones o empresas con fines similares o relacionados con los objetos arriba mencionados; y K) Llevar al cabo todos los actos y celebrar toda clase de contratos (...)"
Like in previous kudos post, this appears in an agreement to amend corporate bylaws for a Mexican corporation.
Proposed translations
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Laudable Lady Linguist
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
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63
participate in negotiations, or for the the benefit of companies
I think that is what might be a logical inference in a case like this.
23 mins
Joshua Parker
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Specializes in field
Mexico
Trilingually educated, globally trained.
Native in: English (Variants: US, British)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 4 more.
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24
participate in negotiations or endeavors
"empresas" can also mean "undertakings", "ventures", "(business) endeavors". I assume that is the meaning intended here. ¡Saludos!
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Robert Carter
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Specializes in field
Mexico
Translating full-time since 1998
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English
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558
to have interests in businesses or enterprises
Have a look in your Becerra dictionary and you will find that, in addition to "negotiation," the word "negociación" also has the meaning of "business, enterprise, venture, joint venture," etc.
My reasoning for choosing this interpretation here is I usually find that, in these contexts, legal drafters use synonyms to cover the concepts in their entirety, so it would be unusual if "negociaciones" were to mean something altogether different from "empresas", as it would with "negotiations".
You have to look back to "Adquirir y disponer de acciones, valores y partes sociales de empresas" to understand what "participar en negociaciones o empresas con fines similares" actually refers to, i.e., holding a stake or interest in these businesses, ventures, enterprises, etc.
My reasoning for choosing this interpretation here is I usually find that, in these contexts, legal drafters use synonyms to cover the concepts in their entirety, so it would be unusual if "negociaciones" were to mean something altogether different from "empresas", as it would with "negotiations".
You have to look back to "Adquirir y disponer de acciones, valores y partes sociales de empresas" to understand what "participar en negociaciones o empresas con fines similares" actually refers to, i.e., holding a stake or interest in these businesses, ventures, enterprises, etc.
Discussion
Had the Spanish used the word "emprendimiento", this particular sense would have been more apparent than when using "empresa" which now = compañía.