Jul 11, 2018 05:58
5 yrs ago
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English term
France
It's all about the context
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, French to English, French
upholstered sofa
English to French
Other
Furniture / Household Appliances
Guide for sales assistant of high-end furniture made in Italy by the brand itself.
I am not clear on the meaning, a sofa is necessarily upholstered, is it not? Otherwise it would be uncomfortable like a church bench? Does it mean the inside stuff or the outside layer of fabric?
XXX is particularly specialised in carpentry workmanship and the manufacturing of ***upholstered*** armchairs and sofas.
I am not clear on the meaning, a sofa is necessarily upholstered, is it not? Otherwise it would be uncomfortable like a church bench? Does it mean the inside stuff or the outside layer of fabric?
XXX is particularly specialised in carpentry workmanship and the manufacturing of ***upholstered*** armchairs and sofas.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | Canapé tapissier |
Elisabeth Gootjes
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| 4 +3 | sofa rembourré |
FX Fraipont (X)
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| 5 +1 | canapé (sofa) capitonné |
GILLES MEUNIER
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| 4 -1 | canapé capitonné |
Christine Roffi
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Proposed translations
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1 day 4 hrs
Elisabeth Gootjes
France
France
Native in French
Specializes in field
France
The words structure the thinking
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English, Dutch to French, and 1 more.
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Canapé tapissier
Pour avoir travaillé avec des fabricants de sièges de luxe, on utiliserait ici plutôt le terme de "canapé tapissier" (à la différence d'un "canapé usiné").
"Capitonné" serait "buttoned".
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Par définition tout siège tapissier est rembourré, le rembourrage étant l'une des étapes du travail, qu'il soit effectué avec des fibres naurelles ou synthétiques.
"Tapissier" donne une indication sur la qualité du travail, en l'occurence un travail artisanal et de haute qualité.
A titre d'information, lorsque l'on parle d'un sommier (de lit) tapissier, il s'agit d'un sommier recouvert, sans précision sur le processus (artisanal ou usiné).
"Capitonné" serait "buttoned".
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Note added at 9 days (2018-07-20 10:42:39 GMT)
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Par définition tout siège tapissier est rembourré, le rembourrage étant l'une des étapes du travail, qu'il soit effectué avec des fibres naurelles ou synthétiques.
"Tapissier" donne une indication sur la qualité du travail, en l'occurence un travail artisanal et de haute qualité.
A titre d'information, lorsque l'on parle d'un sommier (de lit) tapissier, il s'agit d'un sommier recouvert, sans précision sur le processus (artisanal ou usiné).
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Yes, I've come across this exact-same distinction made with 'sommier'
9 mins
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Thank you, Tony. Have nice day! Elisabeth
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| agree |
Jocelyne Cuenin
23 mins
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Merci, Jocelyne
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| agree |
Christian Fournier
3 days 7 mins
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Merci, Christian
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+3
2 mins
sofa rembourré
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14 mins
canapé (sofa) capitonné
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Note added at 15 minutes (2018-07-11 06:14:22 GMT)
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e canapé capitonné s'adapte à tous les styles d'intérieur. En visitant les pages de Cdiscount, vous tomberez certainement sur un large panel de canapés
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Note added at 15 minutes (2018-07-11 06:14:46 GMT)
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https://www.cdiscount.com/maison/canape-canapes/canape-chest...
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Note added at 16 minutes (2018-07-11 06:15:14 GMT)
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et bravo la France!!!
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Note added at 15 minutes (2018-07-11 06:14:22 GMT)
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e canapé capitonné s'adapte à tous les styles d'intérieur. En visitant les pages de Cdiscount, vous tomberez certainement sur un large panel de canapés
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Note added at 15 minutes (2018-07-11 06:14:46 GMT)
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https://www.cdiscount.com/maison/canape-canapes/canape-chest...
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et bravo la France!!!
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: Selon CNRTL, "capitonner" c'est : "Mettre de la bourre en piquant de place en place." That would be "(deep) buttoned upholstery" in English.
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En France, c'est un sofa capitonné...
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Christine Roffi
7 days
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6 days
Christine Roffi
United States
United States
Native in French
United States
Never Say Impossible
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French to English
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canapé capitonné
En général un canapé est rembourré... sinon c'est un banc. Le canapé capitonné se réfère au canapé style anglais "Chesterfield".
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Without a context (ie "a date") it is hard to decide on the type of sofa. "Capitonné" does not necessarily refer to Chesterfield couches in French. http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/capitonné
@Tony you can even talk about a canapé capitonné tapissier...https://www.cdiscount.com/maison/canape-canapes/canape-capit...
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Without a context (ie "a date") it is hard to decide on the type of sofa. "Capitonné" does not necessarily refer to Chesterfield couches in French. http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/capitonné
@Tony you can even talk about a canapé capitonné tapissier...https://www.cdiscount.com/maison/canape-canapes/canape-capit...
Reference:
https://www.cdiscount.com/maison/canape-canapes/canape-chesterfield/l-1170128.html#_his_http://
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: This amounts to over-interpretation; 'capitonné' usually implies '(deep) buttoned', as in your suggestion of a 'Chesterfield' — but that's not what it actually means here; please see my explanation above, and it's the same notion as a 'sommier tapissier'.
6 hrs
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We can agree to disagree. Without a context (ie a date) it is impossible to decide on a proper translation. You can even have a "canapé capitonné tapissier"!
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Discussion
There is a style of furniture that, even though it does have comfy cushions, has a largely exposed wooden frame — at one time, this kind of furniture used to be referred to as "cottage-style"; this is as distinct from what they are referring to here, which is, I believe "fully-upholstered" — i.e. the whole thing is covered in fabric, so even though these people are carpenters, their workmanship won't actually be visible!
Sadly, this term has rather changed its meaning over the years, so a modern image search returns precious few relevant images; but here is just one I found that shows the style of furniture I think they are contrasting with:
https://a0.amlimg.com/NDU0NWNmOTc2NTQ2NThjNGJkOGQ4NWRiZGE0ZT...
While this is a more classic rendering of what I would consider an "upholstered sofa":
http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/photo-g/57305-4324047.jpg