Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Viceconsejería de la Consejería de Agricultura

English translation:

deputy minister\'s office at the regional agriculture ministry

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Spanish term

Viceconsejería de la Consejería de Agricultura

Non-PRO Spanish to English Social Sciences Government / Politics Job title
Hi all,

I am translating a conference document and this is the title of one of the speakers:

Consejera Técnica de Viceconsejería de la Consejería de Agricultura, Pesca y Desarrollo Rural de Andalucía

Wondering how to best translate "Viceconsejería de la Consejería de Agricultura."

Thanks in advance!
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Proposed translations

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deputy minister's office at the regional agriculture ministry

Allegro is right, "vice-" and "deputy" apply to individuals, not inanimate entities.

The viceconsejería is the office of an individual, the viceconsejero/a, the deputy minister of a regional government:
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/viceconsejero

This is an official document in English by the Andalusian regional ministry of agriculture and fisheries, whose name appears at the bottom of each page:
https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/sites/fisheries/files/docs/bo...

Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for your help!"
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(Regional) Vice-Ministry for Agriculture

I usually translate it like that:

Vice-Ministry for Agriculture.

Here you have an official website where it's been translated that way.
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : 'Vice' is applied to individuals not to things
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Deputy Regional Ministry of the Regional Ministry of Agriculture

Deputy Regional Ministry - ResearchGate
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ana_Carriazo
Consejería de Salud Junta de Andalucía, Spain. Deputy Regional Ministry. Current position. Senior Advisor. Top co-authors. View All. Federico Alonso Trujillo.

Contribution from Regional Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Rural ...
https://ec.europa.eu › European Commission › Futurium
Jan 22, 2017 - Contribution from Regional Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Rural Development of Andalusia - Futurium.
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : I have difficulty in applying 'deputy' to an inanimate entity: surely a deputy is a human being?
31 mins
True. I just copied what it said on the Cv. i found
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Refs.

I agree with Allegro that the term “Viceconsejería” while in many places has been translated as “Deputy…” or “Vice-Ministry” or simply “Regional”, I searched the ProZ glossary for linked related specifically to Spain, and another solution, appears to be “Department/Subdepartment”, and this is strengthened by María Vargas’ post (R.I.P), a former colleague and well-respected legal translator where in one post, María noted that some clients objected to the use of “Ministry” for “consejería” and she was asked to use “Department”.

https://www.proz.com/search/ (re: consejería)
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-contracts/... (Consejería translated as Department) (context: Consejería de Economia y Hacienda de la Junta de Andalucia). This is Spain.


https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/wine-oenology-...
Consejería de Agricultura > Department (also Spain)

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/11...
Consejería (Office) (Mexico)

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/13...
Consejería > Department (Spain)
Comment.
When I've translated "consejería"as Ministry (as the dictionary recommends) for various autonomous goverments, some of them have objected, asking me to use the term "Dept." So, this is what I suggest now. María T. Vargas.

Es una iniciativa impulsada por la Viceconsejería de Política Lingüística, junto con la colaboración de las diputaciones forales, la asociación de municipios vascos EUDEL, y los departamentos de Industria y Empleo del Gobierno Vasco. konfekoop.coop
It is an initiative promoted by the Sub-Department for Language Policy with the collaboration of the Provincial Councils, the EUDEL association of Basque Town Councils, and the Departments of Industry and Employment of the Government of the Basque Autonomous Community. konfekoop.coop


Hope these help.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree philgoddard : But I don't agree that "ministry" is wrong. As long as you make it clear that it's a regional ministry, not a federal one, it seems the obvious choice. The person in charge is the minister. // I'm disagreeing with a previous answer, not you.
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I mainly addressed "vice.." backed up by Spanish links / I must be stupid, but I have no clue what you mean by "I'm disagreeing with a previous answer"! Where? I see no disagree any of the proposals.
agree AllegroTrans
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Thank you.
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