Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
gevulde bloemen
English translation:
Double flowered
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Richard Purdom
Aug 3, 2019 16:01
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Dutch term
Portugal
gevulde bloemen
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This seems to be quite simple: flowers composed entirely of petals according to this video
https://vroegevogels.bnnvara.nl/media/59617
but I can't find a simple name in English
thanks for any help
https://vroegevogels.bnnvara.nl/media/59617
but I can't find a simple name in English
thanks for any help
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | Double flowered |
Greg Irving (X)
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| 4 | complex flowers |
Lianne van de Ven
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| 3 | large-petalled flowers |
James Duncan
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References
| double flowers |
Barend van Zadelhoff
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| refs |
Michael Beijer
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Proposed translations
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12 mins
Selected
Double flowered
These are varieties with multiple petals in the flower
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James Duncan
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large-petalled flowers
According to van Dale, 'met grotere bloembladen dan gewoonlijk'.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: I think Van Dale is wrong. That's not something you see very often!
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Lianne van de Ven
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complex flowers
How about this: "Others have flower structures so complex a pollinator couldn’t find its way to the center with a map, a compass, and a native guide."
https://xerces.org/2017/11/21/picking-plants-for-pollinators...
I think she is referring in general to cultivars that are selected to have attractive full flowers. That would be an alternative to complex, because complex itself might linguistically not be the best choice.
Are you translating the video that you refer to? It might need some other descriptive language. I couldn't find anything relating to shape and insect attraction, which brought me to the cultivars. Not attracting insects searches lead to flowers that repel them.
This came closest to descriptions of shapes and attraction, but it didn't mention cultivars: https://www.foxleas.com/flower-shapes.asp
https://xerces.org/2017/11/21/picking-plants-for-pollinators...
I think she is referring in general to cultivars that are selected to have attractive full flowers. That would be an alternative to complex, because complex itself might linguistically not be the best choice.
Are you translating the video that you refer to? It might need some other descriptive language. I couldn't find anything relating to shape and insect attraction, which brought me to the cultivars. Not attracting insects searches lead to flowers that repel them.
This came closest to descriptions of shapes and attraction, but it didn't mention cultivars: https://www.foxleas.com/flower-shapes.asp
Reference comments
10 hrs
Barend van Zadelhoff
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Reference:
double flowers
gevulde bloemen = double flowers (rather then 'double flowered')
Bij gevulde bloemen zijn meerdere of alle meeldraden omgevormd tot kroonbladen.
In double flowers are more or all stamens transformed into petals.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/denboma/9184260131
• Double flowers have additional floral organs compared to the usual sets of four, five or six found in most plants.
• The extra organs are usually petals that have
replaced stamens.
• A semi-double flower has additional petals but stamens still remain.
• A fully double flower has lost most or all stamens to petals
https://nsfsakai.nthsydney.tafensw.edu.au/access/content/gro...
In double flowers, stamens are replaced by petals which are known as homeosis, a phenomenon in the plant that referred as a complete or partial replacement of one structure into another structure.
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5064133?class=pd...
Een zwam, Peronospora violacea , is op deze plant waargenomen. Deze veroorzaakt gevulde bloemen, doordat n.l. de meeldraden in bloembladen veranderen.
https://waarneming.nl/species/2588/
Hetzelfde geldt voor tulpen; normaal hebben ze twee kransen van gekleurde bloemdekbladeren, maar heel veel tulpenvariëteiten hebben gevulde bloemen waarbij de meeldraden omgevormd zijn tot gekleurde bloemdekbladeren. Soms zitten er zelfs nog delen van de helmdraad of de helmknoppen aan het vervormde bloemdekblad.
https://www.konvib.be/artikels-pseudo/artikels-bijenweide/al...
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In double flowers, stamens have been transformed into extra petals for a fuller, showier bloom. The lack of pollen means pollination cannot occur and the flower remains open for longer, waiting. Both of these features have made double flowers attractive to horticulturists and much energy has been put into breeding double varieties.
http://www.beeginnerbeekeeper.com/single-and-double-flowers/
Bij gevulde bloemen zijn meerdere of alle meeldraden omgevormd tot kroonbladen.
In double flowers are more or all stamens transformed into petals.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/denboma/9184260131
• Double flowers have additional floral organs compared to the usual sets of four, five or six found in most plants.
• The extra organs are usually petals that have
replaced stamens.
• A semi-double flower has additional petals but stamens still remain.
• A fully double flower has lost most or all stamens to petals
https://nsfsakai.nthsydney.tafensw.edu.au/access/content/gro...
In double flowers, stamens are replaced by petals which are known as homeosis, a phenomenon in the plant that referred as a complete or partial replacement of one structure into another structure.
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5064133?class=pd...
Een zwam, Peronospora violacea , is op deze plant waargenomen. Deze veroorzaakt gevulde bloemen, doordat n.l. de meeldraden in bloembladen veranderen.
https://waarneming.nl/species/2588/
Hetzelfde geldt voor tulpen; normaal hebben ze twee kransen van gekleurde bloemdekbladeren, maar heel veel tulpenvariëteiten hebben gevulde bloemen waarbij de meeldraden omgevormd zijn tot gekleurde bloemdekbladeren. Soms zitten er zelfs nog delen van de helmdraad of de helmknoppen aan het vervormde bloemdekblad.
https://www.konvib.be/artikels-pseudo/artikels-bijenweide/al...
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Note added at 11 hrs (2019-08-04 03:04:07 GMT)
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In double flowers, stamens have been transformed into extra petals for a fuller, showier bloom. The lack of pollen means pollination cannot occur and the flower remains open for longer, waiting. Both of these features have made double flowers attractive to horticulturists and much energy has been put into breeding double varieties.
http://www.beeginnerbeekeeper.com/single-and-double-flowers/
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Kitty Brussaard
: Indeed, 'double flowers' if used as a noun (to refer to the flowers as such) and 'double-flowered' if used as an adjective. See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-flowered.
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Dank je, Kitty. I mentioned it since here it is used as a noun: gevulde bloemen.
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Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English, English to Dutch, and 2 more.
Reference:
refs
found this in a glossary on my PC:
gevulde bloem = double
gevulde bloem = full
gevulde hoofdjes = double
gevulde hoofdjes = full
Botanical Glossary, by John Bruinsma and Wim van der Ven @ http://www.knnv.nl/eindhoven/floristen/Glossary.htm
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see also:
flore pleno =
gevulde bloemen, dubbele --: bloemen met abnormaal veel kroonbladen.
https://beijerterm.com/Glossary_of_Botanical_&_Horticultural...
gevulde bloem = double
gevulde bloem = full
gevulde hoofdjes = double
gevulde hoofdjes = full
Botanical Glossary, by John Bruinsma and Wim van der Ven @ http://www.knnv.nl/eindhoven/floristen/Glossary.htm
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Note added at 1688 days (2024-03-17 23:20:08 GMT) Post-grading
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see also:
flore pleno =
gevulde bloemen, dubbele --: bloemen met abnormaal veel kroonbladen.
https://beijerterm.com/Glossary_of_Botanical_&_Horticultural...
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