Sep 25, 2019 09:18
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French term
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recettes de l'exploitation
French to English
Bus/Financial
Music
This has to do with remuneration for the use of songs, videos, etc. for artists, performers and producers...
I'm providing the entire context so that it is clear how this term is used. You will find it at the end of the text below.
Context:
Les régimes de licence légale
L’article L. 214-1 du Code de la propriété intellectuelle dispose que lorsqu'un phonogramme a été publié à des fins de commerce, l'artiste-interprète et le producteur ne peuvent s'opposer :
1º / à sa communication directe dans un lieu public (ex : discothèque et autre lieu sonorisé), dès lors qu'il n'est pas utilisé dans un spectacle ;
2º / à sa radiodiffusion et à sa câblo-distribution simultanée et intégrale, ainsi qu'à sa reproduction strictement réservée à ces fins, effectuée par ou pour le compte d'entreprises de communication audiovisuelle en vue de sonoriser leurs programmes propres diffusés sur leur antenne ainsi que sur celles des entreprises de communication audiovisuelle qui acquittent la rémunération équitable.
Dans tous les autres cas, il incombe aux producteurs desdits programmes de se conformer au droit exclusif des titulaires de droits voisins prévu aux articles L. 212-3 et L. 213-1.
Ces utilisations des phonogrammes publiés à des fins de commerce, quel que soit le lieu de fixation de ces phonogrammes, ouvrent droit à rémunération au profit des artistes-interprètes et des producteurs.
Cette rémunération est versée par les personnes qui utilisent les phonogrammes publiés à des fins de commerce dans les conditions mentionnées aux 1°, 2° et 3° du présent article.
Elle est assise sur les recettes de l'exploitation ou, à défaut, évaluée forfaitairement dans les cas prévus à l'article L. 131-4.
I'm providing the entire context so that it is clear how this term is used. You will find it at the end of the text below.
Context:
Les régimes de licence légale
L’article L. 214-1 du Code de la propriété intellectuelle dispose que lorsqu'un phonogramme a été publié à des fins de commerce, l'artiste-interprète et le producteur ne peuvent s'opposer :
1º / à sa communication directe dans un lieu public (ex : discothèque et autre lieu sonorisé), dès lors qu'il n'est pas utilisé dans un spectacle ;
2º / à sa radiodiffusion et à sa câblo-distribution simultanée et intégrale, ainsi qu'à sa reproduction strictement réservée à ces fins, effectuée par ou pour le compte d'entreprises de communication audiovisuelle en vue de sonoriser leurs programmes propres diffusés sur leur antenne ainsi que sur celles des entreprises de communication audiovisuelle qui acquittent la rémunération équitable.
Dans tous les autres cas, il incombe aux producteurs desdits programmes de se conformer au droit exclusif des titulaires de droits voisins prévu aux articles L. 212-3 et L. 213-1.
Ces utilisations des phonogrammes publiés à des fins de commerce, quel que soit le lieu de fixation de ces phonogrammes, ouvrent droit à rémunération au profit des artistes-interprètes et des producteurs.
Cette rémunération est versée par les personnes qui utilisent les phonogrammes publiés à des fins de commerce dans les conditions mentionnées aux 1°, 2° et 3° du présent article.
Elle est assise sur les recettes de l'exploitation ou, à défaut, évaluée forfaitairement dans les cas prévus à l'article L. 131-4.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:44: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Bus/Financial"
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Mark Harris
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
Quality, accuracy and flexibility
Native in: English (Variants: UK, British)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
the proceeds from/generated by its use
Is it not saying that the "rémunération" is based on the proceeds generated by the use of the phonogram?
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performing right royalties/performance royalties
I would have thought that this is the right term. I'm taking "exploitation" as "performance"
Reference:
https://www.bmi.com/faq/entry/what_is_the_difference_between_performing_right_royalties_mechanical_r
Peer comment(s):
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Eliza Hall
: Those terms are way way too general for this text. Playing music in restaurants, etc. is a type of public performance, but this text is very specific. PS: your translation AND reference to the type of royalties are wrong. My comment focuses on the latter.
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You think that "performing rights" are too general and suggest yourself "operatiing revenues" !?!?!? You can't be serious ?
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Eliza Hall
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Lawyer-Translator-Certified Interpreter
Native in: English (Variants: US, Scottish, Canadian, Irish, British, UK)
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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operating revenues
This is a very specific type of music royalty: the payment due to artists and producers when public establishments (discos, bars, restaurants, etc.) play recorded music.
As Article L.214-1 says, this is about la "communication directe [d'un phonogramme] dans un lieu public, dès lors qu'il n'est pas utilisé dans un spectacle..." In other words, playing what in US law we call a "phonorecord" or "sound recording" in a public place, other than as part of a theatrical production (theatrical productions that include recorded music are subject to different royalty rules and calculations).
So, the recettes de l'exploitation cannot refer to the "exploitation" of the sound recording itself, because nobody is paying the business to play a particular sound recording. If a restaurant is playing "When Doves Cry" as background music, nobody actually paid the restaurant to play it -- so there ARE no "recettes" for that.
Also, note that the text of Article L214-1 uses two different words: "les utilisations des phonogrammes," vs. "les recettes de l'exploitation." Those are synonyms. When legislators use two different, synonymous words to refer to things, they do so in order to make clear that they're talking about two different things. If they had meant the "recettes" of playing background music, they could've said "recettes desdites utilisations" or something like that.
Here's how restaurants, bars, etc. pay music royalties: they pay based on the size of the business. The Hard Rock Cafe pays more than your family-owned corner brasserie: https://clients.sacem.fr/autorisations/cafe-ou-restaurant Quote: "Le montant des droits d'auter.... dépend de: la commune dans laquelle est située l'établissement; le nombre de places; le nombre d'appareils de diffusion installés."
Long story short, a larger business will pay a different percentage of their "recettes" than a smaller business.
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PS: This isn't a music question, it's a law question (music law, obviously, but the point is, this is a legal term).
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:22:02 GMT)
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PPS: in case you care, music licensing works essentially the same way in the US. So here's an EN-language explanation:
"Like the quality of the food, drinks and atmosphere, music contributes to the success of the bars, restaurants and venues that we all frequent. The people who created that music have a right to fair payment for the public performance of their music....
Most of ASCAP’s licensees take out “blanket licenses,” meaning that licensed venues pay an annual flat fee without having to take on the time-intensive process of tracking and reporting on every song played. There are more than 100 different types of ASCAP licenses, and we’ve always adapted our licensing to reflect new ways that businesses are using music. Smaller operations may pay as little as a dollar or two a day."
https://www.ascap.com/help/ascap-licensing/why-ascap-license...
As Article L.214-1 says, this is about la "communication directe [d'un phonogramme] dans un lieu public, dès lors qu'il n'est pas utilisé dans un spectacle..." In other words, playing what in US law we call a "phonorecord" or "sound recording" in a public place, other than as part of a theatrical production (theatrical productions that include recorded music are subject to different royalty rules and calculations).
So, the recettes de l'exploitation cannot refer to the "exploitation" of the sound recording itself, because nobody is paying the business to play a particular sound recording. If a restaurant is playing "When Doves Cry" as background music, nobody actually paid the restaurant to play it -- so there ARE no "recettes" for that.
Also, note that the text of Article L214-1 uses two different words: "les utilisations des phonogrammes," vs. "les recettes de l'exploitation." Those are synonyms. When legislators use two different, synonymous words to refer to things, they do so in order to make clear that they're talking about two different things. If they had meant the "recettes" of playing background music, they could've said "recettes desdites utilisations" or something like that.
Here's how restaurants, bars, etc. pay music royalties: they pay based on the size of the business. The Hard Rock Cafe pays more than your family-owned corner brasserie: https://clients.sacem.fr/autorisations/cafe-ou-restaurant Quote: "Le montant des droits d'auter.... dépend de: la commune dans laquelle est située l'établissement; le nombre de places; le nombre d'appareils de diffusion installés."
Long story short, a larger business will pay a different percentage of their "recettes" than a smaller business.
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Note added at 1 day 5 hrs (2019-09-26 15:18:08 GMT)
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PS: This isn't a music question, it's a law question (music law, obviously, but the point is, this is a legal term).
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:22:02 GMT)
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PPS: in case you care, music licensing works essentially the same way in the US. So here's an EN-language explanation:
"Like the quality of the food, drinks and atmosphere, music contributes to the success of the bars, restaurants and venues that we all frequent. The people who created that music have a right to fair payment for the public performance of their music....
Most of ASCAP’s licensees take out “blanket licenses,” meaning that licensed venues pay an annual flat fee without having to take on the time-intensive process of tracking and reporting on every song played. There are more than 100 different types of ASCAP licenses, and we’ve always adapted our licensing to reflect new ways that businesses are using music. Smaller operations may pay as little as a dollar or two a day."
https://www.ascap.com/help/ascap-licensing/why-ascap-license...
Peer comment(s):
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Michael Confais (X)
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Merci.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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7
(calculated on) the sales from the exploitation of
I thnk you will find that the terms "to exploit" and "exploitation" are specifically used where music and intellectual proprty meet. ;-)
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:30:49 GMT)
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Check Google with "exploitation + infringement + intellectual property + music".
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:31:53 GMT)
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property
And my suggestion needs re-phrasing but I think the idea is there.
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:30:49 GMT)
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Check Google with "exploitation + infringement + intellectual property + music".
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Note added at 1 day 6 hrs (2019-09-26 15:31:53 GMT)
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property
And my suggestion needs re-phrasing but I think the idea is there.
Peer comment(s):
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Eliza Hall
: There are no "sales from the exploitation of" music in a bar, restaurant, disco, etc. Music isn't sold in such venues and sales of what is sold (food, drink...) aren't directly related to music (a song does not cause the $25 dinner to be ordered).
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