Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

tir de confiance

English translation:

trust shot

Added to glossary by claude-andrew
Jan 23, 2020 08:52
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French term

tir de confiance

French to English Other Military / Defense Transcript of a talk by a national armed response officer
Cette épreuve porte un nom, cette épreuve porte un nom et cela s’appelle le **tir de confiance**.
Qu’est-ce que c’est que ça ?
Cette épreuve consiste à tirer à balle réelle avec un revolver 357 sur un camarade qui se trouve à une distance de 15 m. Ce tir s’effectue à bras franc, c’est-à-dire à une seule main et consiste à casser un petit plateau d’argile d’environ 15 cm de diamètre accroché sur un gilet pare-balle porté par un camarade.
C’est le prochain test !
J’ai rien dit !
C’est la raison pour laquelle nous avons également pour ce tir, pour ceux qui en auraient déjà entendu parler, il a deux noms : le premier nom, c’est le** tir de confiance** et le deuxième nom, c’est le tir plateau.
En fin de compte, cela fait allusion au petit plateau d’argile utilisé pour le balltrap que l’on accroche sur le gilet pare-balle.

Discussion

SafeTex Jan 23, 2020:
Trust Shot Although it only seems to apply to Turkey, I thought Wendy's suggestion was very helpful with it's reference.
I'm not going to agree with it though as I have my own suggestion up and don't want to ...shoot myself in the foot aka the What the #$@&%*! shot :)
claude-andrew (asker) Jan 23, 2020:
YouTube This shows the actual exercise at the start of the film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCunyREMxQs

Proposed translations

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trust shot

The Trust Shot (in Turkish "Güven Atışı") is a part of the MB's training program. It is exercised on the last month of the training and is to ensure that the soldiers can trust each other with their lives. The Trust Shot consists of two members of a squad standing next to paper target boards, while another member fires on the targets with a handgun while walking towards them from 15 m (49 ft) away. During the exercise, the men standing next to the targets are not allowed to move or wear body armor. They are one of the few special operations teams in the world to perform the trust shot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_Command_(Turkey...
Peer comment(s):

agree Alison MacG
19 hrs
Many thanks, Alison
agree Daryo : yes, that's the point: "trusting your future team member".
1 day 5 hrs
Thank you, Daryo
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Wendy"
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33 mins

confidence shot/shooting test to prove confidence

This is to demonstrate both the confidence of the shooter in his training and the confidence of the person being shot at in his fellow trainee. See the attached tweets from a GIGN officer:
1/8 Un petit fil aujourd’hui pour parler du fameux tir de confiance pratiqué au #GIGN.2/8 Après 14 mois de formation, chacun, la veille de recevoir son brevet, passe une ultime épreuve : un tir sur un de ses camarades.
3/8 C'est un tir à 15m au revolver, arme utilisée à l'instruction, sur un pigeon d'argile, fixé sur le gilet pare-balles de la "cible"
4/8 Cet tir revêt une symbolique particulière, au-delà du geste technique, maîtrisé en fin de formation. Il illustre confiance :...
5/8 En soi : « j’ai reçu une formation qui me rend sûr de moi, sûr d’atteindre ma cible sans aucun doute. Je ne ferai pas échec ».
6/8 Confiance mutuelle : « Il a confiance en moi, il ne bougera pas, par peur ou mauvais réflexe, à la seconde où je ferai feu ».
7/8 Confiance mutuelle toujours : « j’ai confiance en celui qui me vise. Formé comme moi, il ne manquera pas sa cible ».
8/8 Enfin, mes anciens, déjà brevetés, avec lesquels je partirai en mission dès demain peuvent m’accorder désormais leur confiance.

The second link has 'confidence shoot', but personally I would avoid this.


Note from asker:
Thanks Danielle, indeed it is the GIGN! See the YouTube I've posted.
Peer comment(s):

agree erwan-l : Bravo pour les références.
2 hrs
Merci
neutral Wendy Streitparth : Where are the English language links? Confidence shot When you need to boost your confidence for any reason, so you take a few shots of your alcohol of preference. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=confidence s...
2 hrs
There are no English language links because an English translation has not been posted on the internet, as far as I know, except the 'confidence shoot' in the second link I posted, which, as I said, I would avoid. I thought the French tweets were helpful.
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3 hrs

Nerves of Steel Shot

I could not find a common expression for this so if I had to translate it and invent a term myself, it might be this.
Note from asker:
Good idea, says it all. Thanks!
Peer comment(s):

agree Danielle Coleman : Nice phrase
35 mins
I was going to say "shit yourself shot" but decided on this instead :)
neutral Daryo : nicely said, but THAT do not really associate with "having faith in our future partner / team member"
1 day 7 hrs
Unless you say that the bloke being shot at needs nerves of steel too :):):)
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Reference comments

1 day 1 hr
Reference:

Supporting Wendy's answer

From: The Elite: The A–Z of Modern Special Operations Forces By Leigh Neville

Unfortunately, despite what various stories on the internet would lead you to believe, the MR73 is today more of a symbolic trophy for recruits completing GIGN selection and for use during the famous confidence-building ritual known as the 'Trust Shot' to ensure complete mutual confidence in the new member. A GIGN member clad in body armour has a clay pigeon attached to his vest. The recruit fires his MR73, using full-power loads, to strike the clay without wounding his fellow operator.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LZO2DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA234&dq...
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