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Italian term

ablazione on-line

Italian to English Medical Medical (general) Cardiology
This is in a journal article on the use of radiofrequency ablation in the treatment of atrial flutter.

It starts out with "Lo scopo del presente studio e stato quello di verificare se l'esecuzione della ablazione on-line avesse risultati clinici comparabili rispetto alla strategia convenzionale."

In another sentence, they say "... valutando i risultati clinici in acuto e nel lungo termine di coloro che sono stati trattati in modo elettivo rispetto a quelli ablati on-line, ovvero entro le 48 ore dall'accesso al reparto di cardiologia" (just in case this additional information helps understand what this is).

It would seem logical to just translate this as "online ablation" but I don't find very many examples in a Google search, which makes me think there must be a more standard, common way of saying this in English. (I don't understand what "online" ablation would be, anyway.)

Is "online ablation" enough, or is there a more widely used expression for this?

Thanks for your help.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 Remote ablation navigation (RAN)

Discussion

JudyC Mar 13, 2020:
another possible reason According to the Treccani dictionary, one of the definitons of "online" is:
on-line ‹òn làin›(o on line, online) locuz. avv. ingl. (propr. «in linea»), usata in ital. come agg. e avv. – 1. Nella tecnica, espressione usata per caratterizzare operazioni che possono essere effettuate su una macchina o su un impianto durante il normale funzionamento (a differenza delle operazioni off-line)

They might have used it to indicate that the ablation was part of the same administrative process. The patients were admitted, treated within 48 hours and then discharged. The others were admitted to the ED, discharged and invited to book the procedure for a later date.

Cedric Randolph Mar 13, 2020:
Imaginative Italians Another example of the infinite creativity of the Italian mentality. Once you find out the rationale it makes perfect sense.
Joseph Tein (asker) Mar 13, 2020:
Different meaning Ciao everyone,

Thank you for trying to help me, but this very logical suggestion from Luigi turned out to be unrelated to the way the authors were using this "ablazione on-line" expression.

In this article (not published yet) the authors compare outcomes in patients who underwent ablation within 48 hours of presenting to an emergency department, with patients who scheduled their procedure for a later time.

A little excerpt says: " ... valutando i risultati clinici in acuto e nel lungo termine di coloro che sono stati trattati in modo elettivo rispetto a quelli ablati on-line, ovvero entro le 48 ore dall’accesso al reparto."

So they explain what the "online" group is, but NO explanation why they use this way of describing it.

Thank you for trying to help me.
Joseph Tein (asker) Mar 8, 2020:
Thank you Grazie, Luigi for your suggestion, and many thanks Judy for your input ... not just here, but for all the other questions you've helped me with :)
Luigi Argentino Mar 8, 2020:
I think you are right. Fine observation
JudyC Mar 8, 2020:
a doubt Luigi's word order indicates we're talking about navigation not ablation.
I'd probably use "remotely controlled/guided ablation" (also in Luigi's 2nd reference) or just "remote ablation"

Proposed translations

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Remote ablation navigation (RAN)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30159751
"The present study compares remotely assisted catheter navigation (RAN) to standard manual navigation (SMN) and both systems amongst each other."

https://www.ecrjournal.com/articles/remote-navigation-ablati...

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Note added at 39 mins (2020-03-08 08:13:44 GMT)
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https://www.revportcardiol.org/en-remote-magnetic-navigation...

more specific for atrial flutter
Peer comment(s):

agree Cedric Randolph
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Here's a reference for you Joe

Note from asker:
Ciao Cedric. Hope you're well and healthy.
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