Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

IVA Retenido Silvestres

English translation:

silvestres > wild products (in this context)

Added to glossary by Taña Dalglish
May 11, 2020 09:02
4 yrs ago
30 viewers *
Spanish term

IVA Retenido Silvestres

Non-PRO Spanish to English Bus/Financial Accounting Taxation
SPAIN and Chile.

I know that IVA Retenido is VAT withheld, but so far I can't find a definition of "silvestres" here, although I assume it means something like forest fruits. All suggestions welcome.


"...IVA Retenido Legumbres 31 IVA Retenido Silvestres 32 321 IVA Retenido Ganado 33 331 IVA Retenido Madera 34 341 IVA Retenido Trigo..."
Change log

May 12, 2020 18:45: Taña Dalglish Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (1): Toni Castano

When entering new questions, KudoZ askers are given an opportunity* to classify the difficulty of their questions as 'easy' or 'pro'. If you feel a question marked 'easy' should actually be marked 'pro', and if you have earned more than 20 KudoZ points, you can click the "Vote PRO" button to recommend that change.

How to tell the difference between "easy" and "pro" questions:

An easy question is one that any bilingual person would be able to answer correctly. (Or in the case of monolingual questions, an easy question is one that any native speaker of the language would be able to answer correctly.)

A pro question is anything else... in other words, any question that requires knowledge or skills that are specialized (even slightly).

Another way to think of the difficulty levels is this: an easy question is one that deals with everyday conversation. A pro question is anything else.

When deciding between easy and pro, err on the side of pro. Most questions will be pro.

* Note: non-member askers are not given the option of entering 'pro' questions; the only way for their questions to be classified as 'pro' is for a ProZ.com member or members to re-classify it.

Discussion

Toni Castano May 11, 2020:
Productos silvestres Hi Neil, "productos silvestres" is what is meant. I can´t think of any other option. Eh, what "productos silvestres" are? Fresh vegetables, fruits, etc., I imagine. HTH.
neilmac (asker) May 11, 2020:
Found this On a Mexican site: "Los productos silvestres incluyen a todos los que se recolectan sin ser cultivados y sin contacto alguno con fertilizantes o contaminantes químicos" - which sounds like organic/ecological products rather than just "wild"... or am I overthinking it?

Proposed translations

10 hrs
Selected

silvestres > organic wild (collected) products

I propose: "organic wild (collected) products".

http://www.intracen.org/uploadedFiles/intracenorg/Content/Ex...

Page 2:
Study aiming to provide information on the worldwide production of and markets for
**organic wild collected products** - discusses terminology used in wild collection; presents an overview of organic and other standards that relate to wild collection; provides data and background information about collection and marketing of certified organic wild collected products; includes selected case studies: Devil’s claw from Southern Africa, Argan oil from Morocco, wild grown medicinal and aromatic plants from Bosnia and Herzegovina, and seaweed from North-America.

Page v (Foreword)
The collection of plant products from the wild is an important economic activity for millions of people. Collection of roots, leaves, nuts and fruits takes place in forests and marginal lands outside areas of agricultural cultivation.

Table of Contents (vii)
Definitions and Terms - Pg. 5
3. Standards Used for Collection from the Wild - Pg. 9

Pages 1 and 2:
The ten countries with largest registered areas are Romania, Kenya, Zambia, Finland,
Azerbaijan, China, South Africa, Uganda, Namibia and Bolivia. These countries cover nearly 92% of the total reported registered wild collection area. However, a large collection area does not necessarily translate into large economic value as the value per ha varies considerably between products.

The ten products which are harvested in largest quantity are bamboo shoots, brazil nut, lingonberry, rosehip, tea seed for oil, blueberry, iron walnut, green laver, coconut and white mushrooms.

Pg. 2
In Australia and Oceania, organic wild collection has little commercial importance. Products include game, noni, sandalwood, sea weed, kangoroo grass and honey. There was almost no data provided on registered areas or quantities.

Pg. 3
In order to provide better insight into the collection and marketing of organic wild collected products, some case studies have been presented, such as argan oil from Morocco, Devil's Claw from Namibia, sage and juniper from Bosnia and Herzegovina and, finally, seaweed from North America.


Pg. 4
Wild collected products are mainly products with a food, cosmetic or medicinal use that are collected in the wild. There is no final and appropriate definition of the term, and many other terms are used for similar kind of products, like for instance “biodiversity products”, “natural products” or “non-wood forest products”. Such products may be used as, for example:
· Ingredients for cosmetics and pharmaceuticals.
· Food and food additives (e.g. edible nuts, mushrooms, fruits, game, herbs, spices, fish, sweeteners).
· Fibres (alternative wood sources like rattan and bamboo, e.g. used in furniture,
clothing, construction or utensils), detergents and other industry product ingredients.


Pg. 5
2. Definitions and Terms
There is no commonly agreed upon term for products collected in the wild. The term “wild collected products” is used interchangeably with similar terms, such as “wild crafted products”, “wild harvested products”, “wild grown products” etc.

. Additional terms include
“natural products” and “biodiversity products”. Such terms cover not only plants or parts of plants but also land animals (insects, amphibians, game, etc.) and aquatic organisms (algae, fish, shellfish, etc). For products collected in the forests, terms like “non-timber forest products” (NTFPs), “non-wood forest products” (NWFPs), “minor forest products”, “secondary forest products”, etc. are used.

This lack of clear terminology and definitions causes problems in communicating and
reporting between countries and languages. People may use the same terms but with different definitions, often changing the underlying concept. Another problem is that studies, standards and statistics may not be comparable from one country (or author) to another. Therefore, a mutually recognised terminology, including clear definitions, is needed for compiling statistics or improving legislation on wild collected products in a country.

With respect to the certification of wild collected products it is necessary to have a common understanding and a clear definition of wild collected products in general and organic wild collected products in particular. These clear definitions do not yet exist.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 day 9 hrs (2020-05-12 18:44:17 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

Thank you too Neil, and continue to stay safe! Un abrazo.
Something went wrong...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I think I ended up just using "wild products". Thanks for all the help and references, guys :-)"
4 hrs

Wild Food

Ejemplos de productos silvestres: rosa mosqueta, mora, hongos, frutos de espino, hojas de boldo, tilo, manzanilla, llantén, toronjil, cedrón, hierbas pectorales, romero, hojas y corteza de quillay, hierba de hipérico, y cera de abeja.

Wild foods are mainly wild plants, wild vegetables, wild fruits, and wild mushrooms.
Note from asker:
OK, thanks for the help :-)
Something went wrong...

Reference comments

7 hrs
Reference:

Refs.

Neil: (may be "organic wild products"?).
http://www.sii.cl/declaraciones_juradas/ddjj_3327_3328/cod_o... (page 1)
This is Chile:
"31. IVA RETENIDO SILVESTRES: Total DEL IVA retención. El monto retenido se registra en el IEC en Retención total.
Factura de Compra emitida (Cód. 45, 46); Notas de Crédito (Cód. 60, 61); Notas de débito (Cód. 55, 56).

http://www.sii.cl/contribuyentes/actividades_especiales/camb...
Page 1: (Chile): "Silvestres" means "productos silvestres"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263102583_Productos...
... Forests not only are a source of timber products and environmental services but also generate resources that are gathered for artisanal, domestic, industrial and medicinal uses (Gutiérrez, 1989) and have a high social and cultural value for rural communities (Campos, 1998;Conforte, 2000). The non-timber part of the forest, which refers to the biological materials of nature with the exception of wood (Semarnat, 2003; Zorondo, 2007), are known by various terms, including Alternative Forest Products, Biological Forest Resources, Non-Timber Goods and Services, **Wild Products**, Natural Products and Non-Timber Forest Resources (NTFRs) (Chandrasekharan, 1995;FAO, 1999;Wunder and Angelsen, 2003). ...
... Los bosques, además de ser fuente de productos maderables y servicios ambientales, generan recursos que son recolectados para uso artesanal, doméstico, industrial, y medicinal (Gutiérrez, 1989), que tienen gran valor social y cultural para las comunidades rurales (Campos, 1998; Conforte, 2000). A la parte no maderable del bosque, referida a los materiales biológicos de la naturaleza excepto madera (Semarnat, 2003; Zorondo, 2007), se le conoce con diversos términos, entre ellos Productos Forestales Alternativos, Recursos Biológicos Forestales, Bienes y Servicios No Madereros, **Productos Silvestres**, Productos Naturales y Recursos Forestales No Maderables (RFNM) (Chandrasekharan, 1995; FAO, 1999; Wunder y Angelsen, 2003). ...



Overview of World Production and Marketing of Organic ... - ITC www.intracen.org › Exporters › Sectors › Biodiversity
PDF http://www.intracen.org/uploadedFiles/intracenorg/Content/Ex...
many companies indicated preference for wild products if available in sufficient quantities ... production means production of agricultural crop products and harvesting of wild plant ... Organic wild rosehips are reported from Chile and Argentina.
OVERVIEW OF WORLD PRODUCTION AND MARKETING OF ORGANIC WILD COLLECTED PRODUCTS

Asked about their preference of either wild collected or cultivated plants of given species,
many companies indicated preference for wild products if available in sufficient quantities,
because of the lower prices compared to cultivated plants.
There are barely any products labelled as “wild” in the organic food retail markets. The only
exception are some single-ingredient products, such as brazil nuts, wild rice, wild fish or
edible mushrooms. However, a lot of fresh and frozen berries used in foodstuffs originate
from wild collection. In other market segments, such as remedies and food supplements, the
term “wild” is used more frequently.
Asked about the efficiency of their monitoring tool for the sustainability of wild collection,
60% of the CBs answered, that it is “sufficient” and 40% that it is “high ”. In order to provide
better insight into the collection and marketing of organic wild collected products, some case
studies have been presented, such as argan oil from Morocco, Devil´s Claw from Namibia,
sage and juniper from Bosnia and Herzegovina and, finally, seaweed from North America.




--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 day 4 hrs (2020-05-12 14:01:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Thanks Neil. Agree. I think that is your safest bet.
Note from asker:
Interesting... in this case I'm just going with "wild products". Tx for the refs :-)
Something went wrong...
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search