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Jun 8, 2020 11:21
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French term

mis à l'enquête publique

French to English Bus/Financial Real Estate Urban/ Development/Planning Belgian text
I'd like to have classified this under /Urban/ Development or Planning, but they don't seem to be options. This concerns the redevelopment of the area around Bruxelles-Midi railway station. I'm not totally au fait with the steps in a UK development plan, but I'm wondering whether this would be equivalent to "put out for public consultation" rather than the more literal "go before a public enquiry". I have a feeling a public enquiry wouldn't feature in the UK process. Text is for a Belgian company's employee magazine.

Depuis de nombreux mois, divers plans d’aménagement directeur (PAD) sont en cours d’élaboration en région de Bruxelles-Capitale. Ces PAD, qui sont un nouvel outil de planification urbaine, ont pour but de définir les orientations stratégiques et réglementaires à l’échelle d’un quartier. Parmi la dizaine de PAD, celui du quartier à la sortie de la gare du Midi devrait être **mis à l’enquête publique** au second semestre 2020. Une bonne nouvelle pour XX puisque nos collègues pourront dès lors introduire la demande de permis du projet Victor, un site acquis en… 2008.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +7 put out for public consultation
3 -1 available for public investigation
2 available for public viewing or inspection
Change log

Jun 8, 2020 11:31: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "part of development process" to "rban/ Development/Planning Belgian text"

Jun 8, 2020 11:34: writeaway changed "Field (write-in)" from "rban/ Development/Planning Belgian text" to "Urban/ Development/Planning Belgian text"

Discussion

MoiraB (asker) Jun 8, 2020:
@AT I did, thanks, but not much use if you don't know exactly what they mean by enquête publique.... This site specifically mentions public consultation in the context of the Brussels Capital Region https://www.dlapiperrealworld.com/law/index.html?t=zoning&s=...
AllegroTrans Jun 8, 2020:
Asker Might I suggest that you research the Belgian planning procedure rather than try to "mushroom" this into the UK equivalent. I would be very wary to reject "public enquiry"

Proposed translations

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put out for public consultation

In the UK, a consultation takes place before the decision is made. A public enquiry is undertaken on a decision that has already been made and where it is being challenged as wrong or unlawful in some way.
Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : Agree that's what happens in UK, but why reject "public enquiry"? Translation needs to reflect the Belgian reality, not UK
9 mins
agree Nicky Over : Exactly right!
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agree James A. Walsh
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agree Libby Cohen : Sounds good to me. Here in Québec they talk about Audiences publiques (Public hearings or consultation) for various major development projects. "Enquiry" has a negative connotation and seems reactive (as in an enquiry into something that went wrong).
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neutral writeaway : Agree with AT. This is a regular practice here and these signs are posted in front of most buildings or areas about to undergo changes. The changes at the Gare du Midi area will be very substantial
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agree EirTranslations
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agree philgoddard : Though the UK terminology is not relevant here.
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agree Will Briant
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agree Suzie Withers : I think this is the equivalent term/process that would be understood by an English speaker. Public enquiry has another meaning in English (certainly in UK English)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "At the risk of "shoehorning" this into the UK equivalent, I feel this is the best solution, given that "public enquiry/inquiry" would suggest something "after the fact", a way of finding out what went wrong, for instance (cf. Grenfell public inquiry). Thanks, everyone."
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available for public investigation

The past participle of 'mettre' (to place) is used as an adjective to qualify that a thing is available for public investigation.

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Note added at 4 days (2020-06-12 16:07:00 GMT) Post-grading
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OK, since it's not about a judicial investigation, but town (urban) planning, the word 'investigation' might be about too much of a study, and I believe you don't like 'inquiry' either in the context of town (urban) planning. Maybe "... available for public view (or public peruse) .." would be better. (peruse is careful reading)

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Note added at 5 days (2020-06-13 13:48:20 GMT) Post-grading
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Since a planning application is placed to be available for the public (mis à l'enquête publique), the work 'consultation' as a definition of 'enquête' (meaning 'inquiry', 'survey', 'inquest', 'investigation') is not entirely appropriate since the application is to be made available for the public. Normally consultations would be held privately and not publicly. Since 'investigation' makes you think of a police issue and suspected criminality then you might consider 'public surveillance' as a more appropriate definition. (surveillance means close observation). Instead of 'investigation' which may be a procedure used to check for problems and issues.
Example sentence:

Celui du quartier à la sortie de la gare devrait être 'mis à l'enquête publique' au second semestre de 2020.

The one from the district at the station's exit should be available for public investigation in the second part of 2020.

Peer comment(s):
disagree AllegroTrans : Lisa this is nonsense; this is about a planning application, it does not get "investigated" (unless there is some sort of criminality involved).
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available for public viewing or inspection

I suggest 'available for public viewing or inspection' instead of 'public consultation' though in this case a private consultation may be beneficial. It's about building and facilities development plans which aim to define strategic directions and statutory regulations within the district's geographic range. The place name mentioned is the capital region of Brussels. Among the ten building and facilities development plans, the one at the area by the station's exit should be available for public inspection (viewing or surveillance are also possibilities). In the latter half of 2020 colleagues will be able to request planning permission (or a permit) to carry out the project.
Example sentence:

Among the ten building and development facilities projects, the one at the area by the stations's exit should be available for viewing in the latter half of 2020. From then on colleagues will be able to request a permit to carry out the project.

Parmis le dizaine des plans d'aménagement celui du quartier à la sortie de la gare devrait être mis à l'enquête publique au second semestre de 2020. Des collegues pourront dès lors introduire la demande de permis du projet.

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