Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
timbro (heraldry)
English translation:
timbre
Added to glossary by
Sarah Gregg
Nov 27, 2020 05:17
3 yrs ago
38 viewers *
Italian term
Italy
Environment, nature, science.
Native in: English 
Works in: Italian to English, English to Italian
timbro
Italian to English
Other
Other
Heraldry
Can anyone help with the correct translation in heraldic terminology for "timbro". It occurs in a definition in a text describing a coat-of-arms as follows: "in araldica il timbro è l'ornamento posto al di sopra dello scudo". I've found various mentions of "timbre" which I thought at first might be the same, but the definition here https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglosst.htm is quite different. Any ideas? And thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | timbre |
philgoddard
|
| 4 | crest |
Mark Pleas
|
| 5 -1 | heraldry stamp |
MassimoA
|
| 5 -2 | stamp/rubber stamp |
Kimberly Mitchell (X)
|
Proposed translations
+1
25 mins
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
67
Selected
timbre
Your own definition says "the exterior ornaments of the escutcheon, this is (1) the helmet, (2) the mantelling, (3) the crest". An escutcheon is a shield.
Timbre
(heraldry) The crest on a coat of arms.
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/timbre
You could say "crest" if you want to use plain English.
Timbre
(heraldry) The crest on a coat of arms.
http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/timbre
You could say "crest" if you want to use plain English.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Phil and all of you. "
-2
21 mins
stamp/rubber stamp
I know when I take trains in Italy, they ask to see if my ticket has a “timbro” after having had it stamped.
Example sentence:
I miei bambini si divertono un mondo a stampigliare, con i timbri colorati, le figure degli animali.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
writeaway
: It would be nice to see at least one reference to back 100% confidence
28 mins
|
| disagree |
Shera Lyn Parpia
: this has nothing to do with the question
1 hr
|
| disagree |
Barbara Carrara
: '[...] heraldic terminology for "timbro"'. Pls read the question before posting.
2 hrs
|
9 hrs
Mark Pleas
Japan
Japan
Native in English
Works in field
Japan
Japanese->English pro, 20 yrs experience
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: Japanese to English, Chinese to English, Italian to English, and 1 more.
crest
In Italian heraldry, "timbro" appears to be a collective term for _everything_ above the escutcheon (shield). Treccani (https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/timbro/) defines "timbro" as follows:
"Tutto l’ornamento posto sopra lo scudo per contrassegnare i diversi gradi nobiliari o le dignità civili, militari o ecclesiastiche. È costituito da: elmo, cercine, corona, cimiero, lambrecchini, cappello, mitra, pastorale, triregno"
So, according to Treccani, the "elmo" is _included in_ the "timbro".
An article on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)) has both the "crest" and the "helm" located above the escutcheon, as though the "helm" is not included in the "crest". But according to the dictionary at "Heraldry of the World" (https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=D... the English technical term for "timbro" is in fact "crest". The same is true at the more complete "International Heraldic Glossary" at Heraldica.org (https://www.heraldica.org/shell/printglo.pl).
"Tutto l’ornamento posto sopra lo scudo per contrassegnare i diversi gradi nobiliari o le dignità civili, militari o ecclesiastiche. È costituito da: elmo, cercine, corona, cimiero, lambrecchini, cappello, mitra, pastorale, triregno"
So, according to Treccani, the "elmo" is _included in_ the "timbro".
An article on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)) has both the "crest" and the "helm" located above the escutcheon, as though the "helm" is not included in the "crest". But according to the dictionary at "Heraldry of the World" (https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=D... the English technical term for "timbro" is in fact "crest". The same is true at the more complete "International Heraldic Glossary" at Heraldica.org (https://www.heraldica.org/shell/printglo.pl).
-1
1 day 4 hrs
heraldry stamp
Un timbro con stemma che può essere usato per contrassegnare gradi nobiliari, ma anche gruppi e organizzazioni.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Barbara Carrara
: Nope. Please read the context before posting. And before selecting your confidence level.
4 hrs
|
Something went wrong...