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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Dilatation conventionnelle à l\'humidité

English translation:

conventional moisture exansion

Added to glossary by John Farebrother
Apr 13, 2021 13:10
3 yrs ago
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French term

Dilatation conventionnelle à l'humidité

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Engineering test report
Le présent document s'applique aux briques de terre cuite, utilisées en France, pour la construction d'ouvrages de maçonnerie conformément à la norme P 10-202 (référence DTU 20.1) et à l'Eurocode 6 (ENV 1996-1-1). Il définit les formes courantes de ces produits. Il spécifie les caractéristiques complémentaires, auxquelles doivent répondre les briques de terre cuite destinées aux constructions de maçonnerie conformes à la norme P 10-202 (référence DTU 20-1), telles que la résistance au gel-dégel des briques ainsi que la dilatation conventionnelle à l'humidité pour toutes les briques de terre cuite, selon des mesures effectués conformément aux méthodes d'essais correspondantes. Il indique la classification des différentes briques de terre cuite et précise les classes de résistance à la compression, selon des mesures effectuées conformément à la norme NF EN 772-1.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 conventional moisture exansion
4 +2 normal moisture expansion
3 +2 usual moisture expansion
3 -1 the expected expansions caused by humidity or dampness
Change log

Apr 13, 2021 13:43: writeaway changed "Field" from "Bus/Financial" to "Tech/Engineering"

Discussion

Dominique Stiver Apr 13, 2021:
which confirms the word "conventionnelle" is not an abus de langage and should be accordingly translated as "convenitional" and not "usual" (usual is a little like "normal", what is usual and what is not?
Emmanuella Apr 13, 2021:
https://www.boutique.afnor.org/norme/nf-p13-301/briques-creu...
Dominique Stiver Apr 13, 2021:
conventionnelle in the source may be an "abus de langage" and should have been courante/habituelle
Emmanuella Apr 13, 2021:
@ Ormiston - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moisture_expansion

Proposed translations

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Selected

conventional moisture exansion

why not conventional, knowing that we usually refer to the CME (coeeficient of moisture expansion)
Reference:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2003ESASP.540..567P

Peer comment(s):
agree Tony M
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci"
+2
5 mins

usual moisture expansion


NF EN ISO 10545-10 December 1997

Ceramic tiles and slabs - Part 10: determination of moisture expansion.
Peer comment(s):
neutral ormiston : Is this really the term? Moisture doesn't itself expand! I'd have thought it was a swelling due todamp
12 mins
I didn`t write the reference.
agree Cyril Tollari : Just use 'moisture expansion'. We don't use 'dilatation conventionnelle à l'humidité' anymore, but simply 'dilatation à l'humidité'
16 mins
Thank you.
agree Tony M : Standard way of expressing 'expansion due to moisture' — nothing to do with 'damp'!
2 hrs
Thank you, sounds much better than expansion due to alcohol
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51 mins

normal moisture expansion

Meaning is the same as the other translations, but this just sounds better to my ear.
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
3 mins
agree Bashiqa : I hesitated between normal and usual.
45 mins
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1 day 17 hrs

the expected expansions caused by humidity or dampness

"The additional or complementary features are specified while the normally accepted shapes or forms of the product are defined, to which clay bricks or slabs conform as they are intended for the standardized masonry constructions, so that the clay bricks or slabs are resistant to frost, along with their expected expansions caused by humidity or dampness for all the clay slabs, as they are measured with the relevant test methods."

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Note added at 4 days (2021-04-17 17:28:11 GMT)
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Note the reference which explains the thermal expansion of clay bricks caused by temperature changes which cause water condensation and dampness. Conventional expansions follow the accepted customs. Clay bricks are more than one. Temperature changes are more than one.
https://www.claytile.co.za/clay-brick-vs-concrete/

Example sentence:

"Il spécifie les caractéristiques complémentaires de ces produits et il définie les formes courantes auxquelles doivent répondre les briques de terre cuites, ainsi que la résistance au gel-dégel des briques.

Il y a aussi la dilatation conventionnelle à l'humidité pour toutes les briques de terre cuite, selon des mesures effectués conformément aux méthodes d'essai correspondantes."

Peer comment(s):
disagree Tony M : There is no justification here to make 'expansion' plural, 'expected' is over-translation for 'conventionnelle, and 'dampness' is inappropriate here for 'humidité'
1 hr
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