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Jul 9, 2021 15:05
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Spanish term

ciclados

Spanish to English Bus/Financial Management
From a survey of employees of a Mexican branch of a Financial company. Quite a few typos. The question asked was whether there were any other comments to be made. Sorry there is no more context.

los lideres de [empresa] estan caducos y ciclados y llegan gerentes in expertos de [empresa 2] todos son unas perswonas que se burlan y que truncan a los nuevos por eso hay tanta roracion es un asco de pesrsona mi gerente me rayo mi madre nunca me habioa pasado es lo peor que me a pasado ern mi voda este empleo la herramienta falla cada ratos no hay lineamientos ni polotocas claras nada al promotor nadie lo respeta ni da lugar te habientan con la tablet y no preguntes nada asle como puedas
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 do not change
2 +1 recycled
3 stale/moribund/antidiluvian/hidebound/inflexible
3 transferred from, reassigned

Discussion

Kristina Love Jul 10, 2021:
Llegar a ser = become The person who filled out the employee survey is very upset and the entire passage is rife with errors and unintentional omissions. Llegar as simply "to arrive" is of course also a possibility here, but more context would be needed to determine that. Specifically we need to know why two companies are being discussed, how they are related, and how this relates to the employee who is filling out the survey.
philgoddard Jul 10, 2021:
Llegar means arrive, as far as I can see.
Kristina Love Jul 9, 2021:
for fun I'd like to try to translate The leaders of (first company) are obsolete and recycled and become unskilled managers of (second company). They're all people who make fun of and undermine the new employees and that's why there's so much turnover. My manager is a nasty piece of work, he went nuts on me. Good grief, that has never happened to me. This job is the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life. The tools break down every other minute, there are no guidelines or clear protocols, nothing. Nobody respects the promotor/developer or gives him a chance. They [talk to you?] with the tablet and [tell you?] don't ask questions, just do what you can.

Proposed translations

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do not change

In effect, they are unchanging and stuck in their ways or stuck in the past.

I have only found a few references but here they are

"Aun vendrán otros debates no oficiales, habrá que observar si los candidatos y sus asesores aprenden de los errores cometidos o si quedan ciclados en sus concepciones. En cuanto contenidos el gran tema es la corrupción. Por lo cual, podemos especular que la guerra por mostrar quien es el menos transparente será la tónica de estas últimas semanas.Aun vendrán otros debates no oficiales, habrá que observar si los candidatos y sus asesores aprenden de los errores cometidos o si quedan ciclados en sus concepciones. En cuanto contenidos el gran tema es la corrupción. Por lo cual, podemos especular que la guerra por mostrar quien es el menos transparente será la tónica de estas últimas semanas."
http://tribunadequeretaro.com/PDFs/tribuna_749.pdf

"Pero no han dimensionado eso porque, siguen ciclados en esos precedentes, en esos precedentes inaplicables, y no vi por ningún lado los precedentes que tienen que ver con el caso de las “mañaneras”, es algo totalmente parcial."
https://repositoriodocumental.ine.mx/xmlui/bitstream/handle/...

" El agente de cambio externo en ocasiones será considerado como alguien ajeno a la organización, que no inspire confianza en el personal y quizá no le den la información necesaria sobre la problemática de la organización, sin embargo, podría resultar al revés, dado que como no lo conocen y que es una persona ajena, le será más fácil que le proporcionen la información porque consideran que no es “incondicional” de la dirección, no obstante, éste tendrá la ventaja de no ser víctima de la “ceguera de taller”, dado que no está acostumbrado a los procesos trabajo viciados y ciclados de la organización."
https://www.gestiopolis.com/comportamiento-desarrollo-y-camb...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2021-07-09 17:18:12 GMT)
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"stuck in their ways" should have read "set in their ways"
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : Good references.
13 hrs
Thanks Phil
agree neilmac : = "unrecycled". I think "stuck in their ways" is also good, although "set" is nicer for UK:-)
14 hrs
Thanks neilmac
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+1
1 hr

recycled

Ciclados sounds like "cycled" but given that it appears with "caducos" and there are many typos, I could imagine that they are saying the leaders of the first company are obsolete and "recycled" into the next company into higher positions.
Peer comment(s):
agree Frank Gerace : for the reasons given by Artspan
43 mins
neutral philgoddard : I can't find any dictionary evidence for this.
14 hrs
No, there wouldn't be, if it's a typo as I suggest.
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1 day 7 hrs

stale/moribund/antidiluvian/hidebound/inflexible

It seems this is highly critical. No need to mince words imo
I must admit I have built on Althea's ideas and references here
A few ideas for the melting pot
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12 days

transferred from, reassigned

The mention of them coming from empresa 2 leads me to think ciclados refers to an on-going movement of poor managers transferred / reassigned from empressa 2 to this employee's workplace (perhaps instead of being fired).
Reference:

http://mydokument.com/ciclado-de-nutrientes-en-sistemas-pastoriles.html

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