Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
en modo a ver lo que pesco
English translation:
go on a fishing expedition
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Kathleen Misson
Sep 7, 2022 03:42
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Spanish term
Spain
en modo a ver lo que pesco
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Las investigaciones prospectivas, tanto policiales como fiscales, están prohibidas en nuestro ordenamiento jurídico. No se puede salir a investigar ‘en modo a ver lo que pesco’; tampoco pueden hacerlo los detectives e investigadores privados y menos los particulares que no tienen ninguna potestad ni facultad especial.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +8 | go on a fishing expedition |
Myriam Seers
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| 4 | fishing trip |
Juan Carlos Llique Gallardo
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Proposed translations
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Myriam Seers
Canada
Canada
Native in English
Specializes in field
Canada
Practising commercial lawyer
Native in: English (Variant: Canadian) 
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
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go on a fishing expedition
Speculative investigations or document discovery processes are said to be "fishing expeditions".
fishing expedition
Fishing expedition refers to someone overly investigating or demanding information from an individual or organization. In law, the term is most used to describe using the discovery phase of a lawsuit to demand too much information based on hunches and accusations. Discovery allows parties to demand a very large amount of information from one another that can be sensitive information, and these tools could be very destructive if unchecked. Varying by jurisdiction, courts have procedures in place for parties to challenge unruly discovery requests from opposing parties.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fishing_expedition
fishing expedition
fish·ing ex·pe·di·tion /-ˌek-spə-'di-shən/ n
1: an inquiry (as by the use of discovery) that is unnecessarily extensive or unrelated to the lawsuit
2: an investigation that does not stick to a stated objective but hopes to uncover incriminating or newsworthy evidence
https://law.en-academic.com/1453/fishing_expedition
Commission accused Of using information requests as “fishing expedition” before EU court
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=2a42d03a-656d...
"Exploratory investigations are prohibited in our legal system, whether conducted by the police or by prosecutors. One cannot go out on ''fishing expedition'' investigations [...]"
fishing expedition
Fishing expedition refers to someone overly investigating or demanding information from an individual or organization. In law, the term is most used to describe using the discovery phase of a lawsuit to demand too much information based on hunches and accusations. Discovery allows parties to demand a very large amount of information from one another that can be sensitive information, and these tools could be very destructive if unchecked. Varying by jurisdiction, courts have procedures in place for parties to challenge unruly discovery requests from opposing parties.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fishing_expedition
fishing expedition
fish·ing ex·pe·di·tion /-ˌek-spə-'di-shən/ n
1: an inquiry (as by the use of discovery) that is unnecessarily extensive or unrelated to the lawsuit
2: an investigation that does not stick to a stated objective but hopes to uncover incriminating or newsworthy evidence
https://law.en-academic.com/1453/fishing_expedition
Commission accused Of using information requests as “fishing expedition” before EU court
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=2a42d03a-656d...
"Exploratory investigations are prohibited in our legal system, whether conducted by the police or by prosecutors. One cannot go out on ''fishing expedition'' investigations [...]"
Note from asker:
| Brilliant. Thanks so much. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
1 day 11 hrs
Juan Carlos Llique Gallardo
Peru
Peru
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Peru
Legal translator
Native in: Spanish
Works in: German to Spanish, English to Spanish, Spanish to English
fishing trip
La frase «en modo a ver lo que pesco» se encontraría en la etapa: descubrimiento de prueba de una demanda. Al respecto, dicho proceso posee tres fases: descubrimiento escrito, producción de documentos y deposiciones.
Con relación al «fishing trip» o también llamado «fishing expedition» este tiene sus límites, los tribunales pueden impugnar dichas investigaciones cuando las consideren innecesarias. Propongo la traducción «fishing trip» porque es la más utilizada frente a «fishing expedition», esto lo demuestra el Google Books Ngram Viewer.
Por otro lado, Thefreedictionary en su diccionario legal nos ilustra sobre el «fishing expedition»: «Also known as a "fishing trip." Using the courts to find out information beyond the fair scope of the lawsuit. The loose, vague, unfocused questioning of a witness or the overly broad use of the discovery process. Discovery sought on general, loose, and vague allegations, or on suspicion, surmise, or vague guesses. The scope of discovery may be restricted by protective orders as provided for by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure».
Con relación al «fishing trip» o también llamado «fishing expedition» este tiene sus límites, los tribunales pueden impugnar dichas investigaciones cuando las consideren innecesarias. Propongo la traducción «fishing trip» porque es la más utilizada frente a «fishing expedition», esto lo demuestra el Google Books Ngram Viewer.
Por otro lado, Thefreedictionary en su diccionario legal nos ilustra sobre el «fishing expedition»: «Also known as a "fishing trip." Using the courts to find out information beyond the fair scope of the lawsuit. The loose, vague, unfocused questioning of a witness or the overly broad use of the discovery process. Discovery sought on general, loose, and vague allegations, or on suspicion, surmise, or vague guesses. The scope of discovery may be restricted by protective orders as provided for by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure».
Example sentence:
The plaintiff made a fishing trip to obtain more information, however, the court dismissed said information.
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: It's an alternative, but no better than Myriam's answer
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yes, myriam's answer is a good choice, I chose "fishing trip" because of its frequency of use.
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