Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Presbyterium
Arabic translation:
هيكل الكنيسة
Added to glossary by
Saleh Dardeer
Aug 1, 2022 11:45
1 yr ago
21 viewers *
English term
Presbyterium
English to Arabic
Social Sciences
Archaeology
Churches
Presbyterium
It is mentioned in an archeological description of an ancient church. It has nothing to do with clergymen or priests, as per the modern usage of the word by the Catholic Church. Kindly, find below some of the contexts:
The Church of the Virgin Mary is the only church in Madaba that follows a centralised plan. It has a round nave (9.70 m in diameter) and an elongated apsed Presbyterium (7.10 m x 5.80 m), supported by two subterranean barrel-vaults.
&
The total area of Saint Stephen's Church is about 305 m2, and comprises three naves separated by two rows of arches resting on pillars and a raised presbyterium.
So far, the closest result I get is المذبح but I am still looking for some sort of confirmation.
Thanks in advance
It is mentioned in an archeological description of an ancient church. It has nothing to do with clergymen or priests, as per the modern usage of the word by the Catholic Church. Kindly, find below some of the contexts:
The Church of the Virgin Mary is the only church in Madaba that follows a centralised plan. It has a round nave (9.70 m in diameter) and an elongated apsed Presbyterium (7.10 m x 5.80 m), supported by two subterranean barrel-vaults.
&
The total area of Saint Stephen's Church is about 305 m2, and comprises three naves separated by two rows of arches resting on pillars and a raised presbyterium.
So far, the closest result I get is المذبح but I am still looking for some sort of confirmation.
Thanks in advance
Proposed translations
(Arabic)
4 +1 | هيكل الكنيسة | Abdelhak Laloui |
4 | المذبح | Tervana Kalds |
3 | المذبح/الحرم | Yassine El Bouknify |
References
Reference.. HTH | Ayman Massoud |
Change log
Aug 4, 2022 14:17: Abdelhak Laloui Created KOG entry
Aug 4, 2022 14:17: Saleh Dardeer changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/3383929">Abdelhak Laloui's</a> old entry - "presbyterium"" to ""هيكل الكنيسة""
Proposed translations
+1
1 hr
Selected
هيكل الكنيسة
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Tervana Kalds
: احسنت .. فالمكان الذي يصلي فيه الكهنة يٌدعى الهيكل .. أما المذبح فهو شيء أخر داخل الهيكل .. إنني أخفقت
6 hrs
|
شكرا لك، المترجم إن أخطأ له أجر وإن أصاب له أجران
|
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks a lot, Abdelhak! This is the closest suggestion so far. I truly appreciate your help."
46 mins
المذبح/الحرم
There are very references online. It's better to repost it as a monolingual question, since native English translators know more than us/me.
الحرم المرتفع
المذبح المرتفع
الحرم:
Liiturgically, within ١Catholicism, the presbyterium is the area of the church in which the clergy functions. It is more commonly called the sanctuary.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterium
المذبح
https://stringfixer.com/ar/Altar_in_the_Catholic_Church
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 46 mins (2022-08-01 12:32:44 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
few references***
الحرم المرتفع
المذبح المرتفع
الحرم:
Liiturgically, within ١Catholicism, the presbyterium is the area of the church in which the clergy functions. It is more commonly called the sanctuary.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterium
المذبح
https://stringfixer.com/ar/Altar_in_the_Catholic_Church
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 46 mins (2022-08-01 12:32:44 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
few references***
Note from asker:
Dear Yassine, I do appreciate your time and effort. Thanks a lot. |
40 mins
المذبح
هو المذبح حيث يقف الكهنة للصلاة
https://worldofdictionary.com/dict/german-english/meaning/pr...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/paullew/9320543038
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 57 دقائق (2022-08-01 12:43:44 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
وكلمة pesyterium جاءت من كلمة presbyter=priest وهو الكاهن
ولأن المذبح هو المكان المخصص للكهنة في الصلوات الجماعية
لذلك اطلق على ذلك المكان presbyterium
https://worldofdictionary.com/dict/german-english/meaning/pr...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/paullew/9320543038
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 57 دقائق (2022-08-01 12:43:44 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
وكلمة pesyterium جاءت من كلمة presbyter=priest وهو الكاهن
ولأن المذبح هو المكان المخصص للكهنة في الصلوات الجماعية
لذلك اطلق على ذلك المكان presbyterium
Note from asker:
Many thanks Tervana for your input! |
Reference comments
16 mins
Reference:
Reference.. HTH
Note from asker:
Thank you, Ayman! However, this refers to one of the Christian Churches that is known as الكنيسة المشيخية |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral |
Arabic & More
: The word is "Presbyterium" (which refers to an architectural feature of the church) and not Presbyterian (a denomination of Christianity).
3 hrs
|
Discussion
https://www.britannica.com/topic/presbytery-cathedral-archit...
presbytery, in Western architecture, that part of a cathedral or other large cruciform church that lies between the chancel, or choir, and the high altar, or sanctuary. As an element of a cruciform church (i.e., one laid out in the shape of a cross), the presbytery may be located geographically west of the sanctuary and east of the choir. This area, which is sometimes also called the presbyterium, can be occupied only by members of the clergy, those priests who participate in services within the sanctuary.
https://studylib.net/doc/8641977/churches-of-jerusalem-at-th...
The author of this book also goes into a lot of detail about what he thinks the term means (see page 170 along with the other pages listed in the below link):
https://books.google.jo/books?id=R3woAAAAYAAJ&printsec=front...
Basically, he compares it to the sacrarium and makes a few distinctions. He also makes mention of the altar but indicates that it includes more than the immediate area of the altar.