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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Jetter (context: milking industry)

German translation:

Spülset für Melkzeugreinigung

Added to glossary by Renata von Koerber
Aug 17, 2014 09:19
9 yrs ago
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English term

Jetter

English to German Other Livestock / Animal Husbandry Melkmaschinen
Beschreibung eines Reinigungsgangs einer Melkanlage mir einer bestimmten Chemikalie

Daily routine instructions - AFTER MILKING:

1. Wash jetters and outside of clusters before connecting them.
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7. Leave clusters on jetters except during frosty weather.

Leider bin ich kein Landwirtschaftsspezialist und brauche daher Hilfe bei der genauen Benennung der Teile der Maschine. Leider hatte ich auch keine Bilder. "Cluster" in einer separaten KudoZ-Frage.
Vielen Dank!
Proposed translations (German)
4 +3 Spülset für Melkzeugreinigung
3 Melkbecher/Zitzenbecher
3 Zitzengummis

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Aug 18, 2014:
Hello Yorkshireman! Indeed, if I may say so, you seem to always have very informative and well-supported (links) answers. It is the reason why you most likely will never see me posting a "disagree" to one of them. You even convinced me from time to time to change my neutral to agree (actually, something I don't see very often from others).

I am simply thinking of the glossary and that, at least in my view, the GER-EN/EN-GER translation entries (in contrast to EN-EN etc.) should contain an answer directly referring to the relevant field. The KudoZ sentence you quoted is a general phrase because it has to account for all eventualities (for example, EN-EN as above). Since the field is not retail but agriculture, I'd expect that both relevant terms be mentioned somewhere in the answer (jetter = Spülaufnahme / jetter washing system = Reinigungsautomat, I believe but I am not entirely sure). The asker also said in her opening statement that she is no expert and needs "Hilfe bei der genauen Benennung der Teile der Maschine".

I merely provided additional information to your answer, which I think is the most helpful and should be rewarded.
Yorkshireman Aug 18, 2014:
Moin Björn The idea behind my answers is to provide information, not necessarily to offer a precise translation of a term. That said, one, or perhaps several, of the pieces of information posted may indeed be the translation the asker is seeking.

I quote,"Your KudoZ answer was chosen as most helpful. " - not "Your KudoZ answer was the best translation"
Björn Vrooman Aug 17, 2014:
@Yorkshireman You're right about the manual/automated part - I only posted it as neutral because I couldn't quite put my finger on it. First thought it had something to do with the aforementioned, but no: it's the "set" I don't like. You've delivered a well-written explanation that I could agrre to without a doubt.

I simply don't think "Set" in this context is an answer to the asker's question. I changed the comment accordingly. BTW: "Spülaufnahme" is also listed in the link to which you referred me.

Just an example directly related to the entire sentence in question:
"Vor-und Nachbereitungsarbeiten (Melkzeuge vor dem Melken aus der Spülaufnahme nehmen, Reinigen des Melkstandgebäudes"
https://www.swissmilk.ch/fileadmin/filemount/gebaeude-anlage...
Yorkshireman Aug 17, 2014:
@Hi Susanne The water for cleaning/rinsing the "Zitzenbecher" is enters through the single tube and can rinse a whole cluster of them (Melkzeug) at one time on the "branches".
Susanne Schiewe Aug 17, 2014:
Hier wird das "Verteilerstück" genannt - http://www.stibleichinger.at/shop/Ersatzteilkatalog.pdf

Proposed translations

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Spülset für Melkzeugreinigung

http://www.schlauerbauer.de/Reinigungs-und-Hygieneartikel-fu...

Here are some jetter washing systems:
http://tinyurl.com/otva237

This is the business end of a jetter: http://www.schlueterco.com/images/productimages/LG/42658.jpg

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-08-17 11:20:50 GMT)
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Here's a very good picture showing "Melkzeug" attached to jetters for cleaning: http://www.milkingmachines.co.nz/assets/images/nmm_banner-im...

Source: http://www.milkingmachines.co.nz/products

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-08-17 12:36:32 GMT)
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Delaval also calls the jetter a "Cluster cleaner" - A "Melkzeug-Reiniger"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2014-08-17 13:23:11 GMT)
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Here are several different kinds of jetters in the category Melkzeugreinigung - interestingly enough called Jetters in German -Spüljetter and Jettercup (the rubber bit that fits into the Zitzenbecher)

http://www.melktechnik-discount.de/Melkzeugreinigung:::357.h...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2014-08-17 13:30:52 GMT)
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BTW: Point 7. Leave clusters on jetters except during frosty weather.

Indicates that the "Melkzeug auf 'Jetter' gelassen werden soll" i.e. after milking and when no milking is taking place.

In other words, leave the "Melkzeug" connected to the cleaning system (adjacent to or above the milking stall) when not in use - which makes good sense; except in frosty weather, when the water used for cleaning could freeze and damage the Melkzeug.

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Note added at 13 hrs (2014-08-17 22:58:13 GMT)
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To make it perfectly clear (Björn), a jetter is an automatic or manually operated cleaning system "Spülsystem/Reinigungssystem" for "Melkzeug". As stated above this note "leave the "Melkzeug" connected to the cleaning system (adjacent to or above the milking stall) when not in use"

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Note added at 13 hrs (2014-08-17 23:09:01 GMT)
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Here are Delaval jetters in detail - the same equipment as shown in the note added at 2 hours.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/397107-1/Jette_cluster_clea...
Peer comment(s):
agree Danik 2014
2 hrs
Thanks Danik
agree Susanne Schiewe : Ja, ich denke, dass du recht hast
3 hrs
Hi Susanne, and THX
agree Björn Vrooman : Jetter cup = Spülkopf. Jetter = Spülaufnahme. "Set" is retail terminology. // Will change to agree (but see discussion entries). Don't know what the asker is waiting for? That is the best explanation. Period.
12 hrs
The 4th link shows a whole line of jetters - the jetters are the blue objects attached to the water supply line (see the Delaval jetters pic)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Great contribution- many many thanks!"
20 mins

Melkbecher/Zitzenbecher

nach Bildern und wikipedia

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkbecher
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkmaschine

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Note added at 29 mins (2014-08-17 09:49:14 GMT)
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Auf dieser Webseite kann man den 'jetter cup assemply' sehen, also die vier Melk- oder Zitzenbecher (jetter cups), in Verbindung mit dem Milchsammelstück, alles in allem das komplette 'assembly' (i.e. Melkzeug).

http://www.pearson-international.com/dairy-systems-milking-m...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Yorkshireman : The series of pictures form the last link shows the "Melkzeug" being cleaned by a jetter
2 hrs
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1 hr

Zitzengummis

Hier ist das ganz mit Bildern. Wenn man nach den "Jetters" googelt, werden diese Zitzengummis gezeigt; das passt IMO auch zum Kontext - die (Metall)becher und die Gummieinsätze sollen gereinigt werden.

"Die Zitzenbecher bestehen aus einer
Metallhülle und einem Gummiinnenteil,
dem sogenannten Zitzengummi."
http://www.milchwirtschaft.de/downloadcenter/Milchcharts_Tei...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Yorkshireman : Jetters are used for cleaning the Zitzenbecher. They look very similar.
2 hrs
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